I believe that grindrers are a spectrum, not a binary. Everything from the closeted university students looking to make a real and lasting monogamous romantic connection now that they're living on their own, to the "partiers" ranting about everything, to the DL cheaters looking to get some action while their wives are out of town, to the OF bottom himbos looking for ten inches and a physique like a Greek god, to the kinkster crowd looking to jump into someone else's ropes before even knowing the rigger's name, to the unhinged maniacs who have even managed to get themselves banned from the absolute dive that is Club Hamilton in Hamilton Ontario, to the posters and lurkers of /r/gaymentoronto bemoaning the lack of real social connections even as they ask if anyone else will be at Spa Excess on Friday.