▲ 493 ▼ Israel’s IDF Bans Android Phones—iPhones Now ‘Mandatory’ (www.forbes.com) submitted 9 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 126 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) they are enforcing the discontinuation of one because they got more spyware into it. they view this as a liability because it means there's more backdoor holes in it and they don't want that compromising their officer corps' operational security. however, they also don't want an entirely spyware free solution for their officers. their entire system of control is built from the ground up on surveillance and enforcing ideological purity. so they still want to spy on their officers. the iphone has the balance they're looking for permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) The stuff you say about android checks out and makes sense but the iPhone part doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) pay particular attention to the invasive telemetry section. this isn't by accident. ios promises to respect your privacy in its advertising, and does a better job than stock android, but the fact remains that the company is subservient to the states it partners with, one of which is the United States, which has close ties to israel. if your plan is to use your phone with whatever os it comes with, the iphone is more secure. but for a military force like the IDF, they can dictate and even issue whatever would be the most secure. the fact that they do not means these considerations are seen as a positive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) What you're describing isn't spyware though. I'm not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn't wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn't spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent [+] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago not… sure how i'm fanboing for android here when i'm saying that both google and apple are complicit in genocide and you should, if you can, do business with neither permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago They switched because Google has more security leaks than a sieve, even accounting for their own hacks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) they are enforcing the discontinuation of one because they got more spyware into it. they view this as a liability because it means there's more backdoor holes in it and they don't want that compromising their officer corps' operational security. however, they also don't want an entirely spyware free solution for their officers. their entire system of control is built from the ground up on surveillance and enforcing ideological purity. so they still want to spy on their officers. the iphone has the balance they're looking for permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) The stuff you say about android checks out and makes sense but the iPhone part doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) pay particular attention to the invasive telemetry section. this isn't by accident. ios promises to respect your privacy in its advertising, and does a better job than stock android, but the fact remains that the company is subservient to the states it partners with, one of which is the United States, which has close ties to israel. if your plan is to use your phone with whatever os it comes with, the iphone is more secure. but for a military force like the IDF, they can dictate and even issue whatever would be the most secure. the fact that they do not means these considerations are seen as a positive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) What you're describing isn't spyware though. I'm not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn't wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn't spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) The stuff you say about android checks out and makes sense but the iPhone part doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) pay particular attention to the invasive telemetry section. this isn't by accident. ios promises to respect your privacy in its advertising, and does a better job than stock android, but the fact remains that the company is subservient to the states it partners with, one of which is the United States, which has close ties to israel. if your plan is to use your phone with whatever os it comes with, the iphone is more secure. but for a military force like the IDF, they can dictate and even issue whatever would be the most secure. the fact that they do not means these considerations are seen as a positive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) What you're describing isn't spyware though. I'm not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn't wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn't spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) pay particular attention to the invasive telemetry section. this isn't by accident. ios promises to respect your privacy in its advertising, and does a better job than stock android, but the fact remains that the company is subservient to the states it partners with, one of which is the United States, which has close ties to israel. if your plan is to use your phone with whatever os it comes with, the iphone is more secure. but for a military force like the IDF, they can dictate and even issue whatever would be the most secure. the fact that they do not means these considerations are seen as a positive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) What you're describing isn't spyware though. I'm not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn't wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn't spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) What you're describing isn't spyware though. I'm not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn't wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn't spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago It rarely is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago not… sure how i'm fanboing for android here when i'm saying that both google and apple are complicit in genocide and you should, if you can, do business with neither permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago not… sure how i'm fanboing for android here when i'm saying that both google and apple are complicit in genocide and you should, if you can, do business with neither permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago They switched because Google has more security leaks than a sieve, even accounting for their own hacks permalink fedilink source parent