▲ 852 ▼ Who do the ACAB rules apply to? (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone) submitted 9 months ago by compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 128 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 20 points 9 months ago (2 children) Does ACAB include judge Dred? He is technically a judge..... permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] killingspark@feddit.org 14 points 9 months ago (4 children) Imma be pedantic about this one: judges are not in the same part of the three separate parts of power as the police (at least commonly in democracies). Technically they are supposed to keep the cops in check and be a neutral independent instance. In reality: most judges are bastards too if you have any qualm with the police, because that often translates to problems with state authority which includes them as well, which more often than not makes them allies to the cops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) In Dredd's universe a "Judge" is a cop, judge and executioner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Glances nervously at American police Haha what a kooky fictional universe hah permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) So they are kind of ACAB+ or ACAB allys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago ACJAB permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago Judge Dredd is an exploration of the British and American legal tradition where the judges are not as impartial as they are presented to you. Dredd represents the lived reality that the judge is a tool of the holders of capital permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago Acab doesn't cover judges. Doesn't mean they can't be bastards, just means they aren't cops. A lot of a judges job is making sure procedure is followed. Police and DAs are generally pretty good at the paperwork, and working with them regularly means they have a relationship, which they don't with defence. I'd say all judges are complicit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) AJAB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 months ago Dunno about that one. There have been judges slipping immigrants out the back door and trying like hell to keep non-violent offenders out of prison. Many JAB, maybe even Most JAB, but there are solid good Judges out there trying like hell to bail out the morally corrupt system. A good judge undoes the shit a previous bad judge does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] killingspark@feddit.org 14 points 9 months ago (4 children) Imma be pedantic about this one: judges are not in the same part of the three separate parts of power as the police (at least commonly in democracies). Technically they are supposed to keep the cops in check and be a neutral independent instance. In reality: most judges are bastards too if you have any qualm with the police, because that often translates to problems with state authority which includes them as well, which more often than not makes them allies to the cops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) In Dredd's universe a "Judge" is a cop, judge and executioner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Glances nervously at American police Haha what a kooky fictional universe hah permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) So they are kind of ACAB+ or ACAB allys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago ACJAB permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago Judge Dredd is an exploration of the British and American legal tradition where the judges are not as impartial as they are presented to you. Dredd represents the lived reality that the judge is a tool of the holders of capital permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago Acab doesn't cover judges. Doesn't mean they can't be bastards, just means they aren't cops. A lot of a judges job is making sure procedure is followed. Police and DAs are generally pretty good at the paperwork, and working with them regularly means they have a relationship, which they don't with defence. I'd say all judges are complicit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) In Dredd's universe a "Judge" is a cop, judge and executioner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Glances nervously at American police Haha what a kooky fictional universe hah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Glances nervously at American police Haha what a kooky fictional universe hah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) So they are kind of ACAB+ or ACAB allys permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago ACJAB permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago Judge Dredd is an exploration of the British and American legal tradition where the judges are not as impartial as they are presented to you. Dredd represents the lived reality that the judge is a tool of the holders of capital permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago Acab doesn't cover judges. Doesn't mean they can't be bastards, just means they aren't cops. A lot of a judges job is making sure procedure is followed. Police and DAs are generally pretty good at the paperwork, and working with them regularly means they have a relationship, which they don't with defence. I'd say all judges are complicit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) AJAB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 months ago Dunno about that one. There have been judges slipping immigrants out the back door and trying like hell to keep non-violent offenders out of prison. Many JAB, maybe even Most JAB, but there are solid good Judges out there trying like hell to bail out the morally corrupt system. A good judge undoes the shit a previous bad judge does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 point 9 months ago Dunno about that one. There have been judges slipping immigrants out the back door and trying like hell to keep non-violent offenders out of prison. Many JAB, maybe even Most JAB, but there are solid good Judges out there trying like hell to bail out the morally corrupt system. A good judge undoes the shit a previous bad judge does. permalink fedilink source parent