▲ 232 ▼ Valve bows to Kremlin: LGBTQ+ solitaire game [Flick Solitaire] pulled from russian Steam [cited a 2006 federal law prohibiting the "promotion of non-traditional sexualities"] (www.player.one) submitted 10 months ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (13 children) That's how to cease operating in a country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 27 points 10 months ago (6 children) Valve should cease operating in Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 10 months ago Also, Valve with every other company should already have been ordered to stop operating in Russia by their respective countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago I don't disagree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) That just fucks over gamers, not the Russian government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children) An angry enough people overthrows their government. Depriving the people will get them closer to that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) That's literally was Israel says about Gaza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent [–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago (4 children) So? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) It's not as simple as about backbone. I agree that ethics are a good reason to stop doing business with an individual but if a company like Valve were to pull out of every country based on ethical matters, they'd need to found their own country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not every country wants people like me dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not every country has decent civic rights. Yet Steam doesn't operate in only 4 and these are the ones US has issued a ban to trade with. And as we are on topic of pulling out of operating in Russia, many western companies did so, yet since initial "withdrawal" in 2022 some had reinstated their businesses. And noone is taking about it. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago Would that really be a bad thing? Steam is one service Russians can't easily replace. If their backwards policies prevent it from operating there, maybe they would take steps to change them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 27 points 10 months ago (6 children) Valve should cease operating in Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 10 months ago Also, Valve with every other company should already have been ordered to stop operating in Russia by their respective countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago I don't disagree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) That just fucks over gamers, not the Russian government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children) An angry enough people overthrows their government. Depriving the people will get them closer to that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) That's literally was Israel says about Gaza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 10 months ago Also, Valve with every other company should already have been ordered to stop operating in Russia by their respective countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago I don't disagree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) That just fucks over gamers, not the Russian government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children) An angry enough people overthrows their government. Depriving the people will get them closer to that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) That's literally was Israel says about Gaza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children) An angry enough people overthrows their government. Depriving the people will get them closer to that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) That's literally was Israel says about Gaza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) That's literally was Israel says about Gaza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago The tactic isn't wrong in that caae, it's how it's being used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago (4 children) So? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) It's not as simple as about backbone. I agree that ethics are a good reason to stop doing business with an individual but if a company like Valve were to pull out of every country based on ethical matters, they'd need to found their own country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not every country wants people like me dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not every country has decent civic rights. Yet Steam doesn't operate in only 4 and these are the ones US has issued a ban to trade with. And as we are on topic of pulling out of operating in Russia, many western companies did so, yet since initial "withdrawal" in 2022 some had reinstated their businesses. And noone is taking about it. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) It's not as simple as about backbone. I agree that ethics are a good reason to stop doing business with an individual but if a company like Valve were to pull out of every country based on ethical matters, they'd need to found their own country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not every country wants people like me dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not every country has decent civic rights. Yet Steam doesn't operate in only 4 and these are the ones US has issued a ban to trade with. And as we are on topic of pulling out of operating in Russia, many western companies did so, yet since initial "withdrawal" in 2022 some had reinstated their businesses. And noone is taking about it. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not every country wants people like me dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not every country has decent civic rights. Yet Steam doesn't operate in only 4 and these are the ones US has issued a ban to trade with. And as we are on topic of pulling out of operating in Russia, many western companies did so, yet since initial "withdrawal" in 2022 some had reinstated their businesses. And noone is taking about it. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not every country has decent civic rights. Yet Steam doesn't operate in only 4 and these are the ones US has issued a ban to trade with. And as we are on topic of pulling out of operating in Russia, many western companies did so, yet since initial "withdrawal" in 2022 some had reinstated their businesses. And noone is taking about it. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago We should absolutely talk about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago Would that really be a bad thing? Steam is one service Russians can't easily replace. If their backwards policies prevent it from operating there, maybe they would take steps to change them. permalink fedilink source parent