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Hell freezes over as Apple supports right-to-repair bill (arstechnica.com)

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same as oil companies claiming they care about going green now after denying the mere existence of climate change tooth and nail for decades. Apple even already confirmed that they'll weasle their way out of the EU law for replacable phone batteries with the waterproof loophole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Re Weaselling from EU rules: do you have a source? I am very interested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could only find a rumour that they were trying to circumvent it.

https://www.techradar.com/phones/iphone/apples-next-iphones-may-side-step-eu-removable-battery-requirement

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. That will not work. IO68 is not waterproof. It’s not a reason enough to not have a replicable battery. We have had ip68 phones with removable backs and user swappable batteries. We can have it again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which loophole is that again?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i hadn’t heard of it before but i found a verge article that says

The battery regulation contains an exemption for devices “that are specifically designed to be used, for the majority of the active service of the appliance, in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion.”

the actual legislation (linked in the verge article) says

… this Regulation should provide for a limited derogation for portable batteries from the removability and replaceability requirements set for portable batteries concerning appliances that incorporate portable batteries and that are specifically designed to be used, for the majority of the active service of the appliance, in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion and that are intended to be washable or rinseable. This derogation should only apply when it is not possible, by way of redesign of the appliance, to ensure the safety of the end-user and the safe continued use of the appliance after the end-user has correctly followed the instructions to remove and replace the battery. Where the derogation applies, the product should be designed in such a way as to make the battery removable and replaceable only by independent professionals, and not by end-users.

im far from being a legal expert and i know apple has its own private army of lawyers, but it seems like it will be an uphill battle to say the iphone qualifies for that exemption.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

that would be quite a spurious argument, that exemption looks like it's for stuff like Go-pros.