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Trump admits he didn’t have to tear down East Wing for ballroom, but just wanted to (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 120 points 10 months ago (34 children)

He led an insurrection on live TV, got away with it, and got reelected. Nothing is going to happen until the propaganda machine is torn down; or, more likely, the whole system just caves in on itself under the weight of its own greed and mismanagement.

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[–] becausechemistry@lemy.lol 33 points 10 months ago (32 children)

I’d say the evangelical base won’t appreciate sex with teens but… given their track record they’ll probably say well actually sex with teens is just a-ok with us now

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 25 points 10 months ago* (26 children)

Christians are decrying Jesus Christ as "too woke" now. All bets are off

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago (24 children)

At that point you can't even call yourself a Christian

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (23 children)

And yet they will continue to do so

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 10 months ago* (22 children)

God will judge them

Matthew 7:21-23

[21] “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [23] And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (19 children)

God does not exist, and will not be judging anyone

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[+] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 10 months ago (18 children)

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I’m not a big fan of your book about imaginary friends that tell you what to do

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 10 months ago (10 children)

If only truth was so easy to dismiss so we can follow our own selfish desires...

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

truth

If your definition of truth includes religious texts in any capacity other than, perhaps, a very dated take on philosophy, then that’s a point we are simply not going to agree on.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago (8 children)

What do you mean by "dated take" - does right or wrong change with time?

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[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What would you say: is buying slaves from the nations that surround me still right, did god instruct people to do wrong or did right and wrong change?

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

God never instructed people to buy slaves. Concessions were once made to an adulterous nation because of their hardened hearts.

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[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago

If you want to say that god made concessions to man go ahead. He still instructed them in how to hold chattel slaves and implied that they could do so ruthlessly, only restricting them from doing so to eachother.

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes. Yes it does. The bounds of what society considers acceptable or reprehensible changes with time, location, and culture.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

So if morality is subjective, then who are we to judge the holocaust? It was acceptable in that time, location and culture.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago

Oooh, nice, we’ve gone straight from a holier-than-thou categorical rejection of the concept of moral relativism to an attempt to use a straw man fallacy involving the Holocaust to categorically settle the entire scope of a topic that has been debated by philosophers smarter than either you or I for literal millennia.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

The morals of the Abrahamic Religions are the morals of blood-thirsty totalitarian pedophiles.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 10 months ago

Proof?

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Fuck you and fuck this take. Theists don't have a monopoly on the capacity to be charitable and a positive influence.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

But we do on rational charitability. You know what's right and what's wrong. You can believe in good and evil without believing in the same God who put it there. Just how someone can also believe the summer is especially warm without believing in man-made climate change.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If there was a just god, it would hate people like you, that's for sure.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child)

And why's that? Because you hate me and you are always right?

If there was a god who was perfectly just and nothing else, wouldn't he hate all of us?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

No, because you’re a sanctimonious asshole who thinks they’re automatically better than other people because of a belief that you have. A belief, I should add, that would be wildly different had you been born in, say, Cairo of Hangzhou or Bangkok, or any number of other cities with religious traditions outside of Christianity.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 point 10 months ago

troll.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Yahweh is a sadist. Of the possible deities to worship Jeebus' dad is the worst.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago

Jesus is Yahweh, and punishing sin isn't sadism.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I’m pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian.

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[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

I'd have said the Evangelical base wouldn't appreciate him having sex with porn stars either, but here we are

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

Or the groping, adultery, several divorces and remarriage, platforming kenneth copeland or flip flopping between being pro and anti abortion. Or him preaching works-based salvation recently.

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They're already influencing the idea with Megan Kelly. It's amazing to me how they've moved the goalposts so far that the general populace are now becoming apologists for so many things they once vehemently condemned. I'm not talking politicians who are projecting. I'm talking regular folks that are allowing outside influence to convince them that abuse is ok. I was raised by bigots. I was taught inequality and mistrust as a child. Thankfully it was never outright hatred, but it could have easily gone there. But pedophilia, that was the vilest of vile, the atrocity that could not stand. Now those same family members would be of the group to most likely defend this, were they alive today.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 4 points 10 months ago

They've started to distinguish between pedophiles and ephebophiles, just so they can continue to say that Trump isn't a pedo.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

They're already priming this pump with Megyn Kelly questioning "well if the kids had started puberty, was it really pedophilia". There's a shocking amount that are also being led either to "well what if the child consents" and the more common "children shouldn't have any rights at all so it's effectively a property crime".

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 10 months ago

I dunno... I think there's a timeline where he winds up like Il Duche

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