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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

God will judge them

Matthew 7:21-23

[21] “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [23] And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

God does not exist, and will not be judging anyone

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[+] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

I’m not a big fan of your book about imaginary friends that tell you what to do

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

If only truth was so easy to dismiss so we can follow our own selfish desires...

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

truth

If your definition of truth includes religious texts in any capacity other than, perhaps, a very dated take on philosophy, then that’s a point we are simply not going to agree on.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean by "dated take" - does right or wrong change with time?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Yes. Yes it does. The bounds of what society considers acceptable or reprehensible changes with time, location, and culture.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

So if morality is subjective, then who are we to judge the holocaust? It was acceptable in that time, location and culture.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago

Oooh, nice, we’ve gone straight from a holier-than-thou categorical rejection of the concept of moral relativism to an attempt to use a straw man fallacy involving the Holocaust to categorically settle the entire scope of a topic that has been debated by philosophers smarter than either you or I for literal millennia.

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[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

What would you say: is buying slaves from the nations that surround me still right, did god instruct people to do wrong or did right and wrong change?

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

God never instructed people to buy slaves. Concessions were once made to an adulterous nation because of their hardened hearts.

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[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago

If you want to say that god made concessions to man go ahead. He still instructed them in how to hold chattel slaves and implied that they could do so ruthlessly, only restricting them from doing so to eachother.

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

The morals of the Abrahamic Religions are the morals of blood-thirsty totalitarian pedophiles.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago

Proof?

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Fuck you and fuck this take. Theists don't have a monopoly on the capacity to be charitable and a positive influence.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But we do on rational charitability. You know what's right and what's wrong. You can believe in good and evil without believing in the same God who put it there. Just how someone can also believe the summer is especially warm without believing in man-made climate change.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

If there was a just god, it would hate people like you, that's for sure.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

And why's that? Because you hate me and you are always right?

If there was a god who was perfectly just and nothing else, wouldn't he hate all of us?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

No, because you’re a sanctimonious asshole who thinks they’re automatically better than other people because of a belief that you have. A belief, I should add, that would be wildly different had you been born in, say, Cairo of Hangzhou or Bangkok, or any number of other cities with religious traditions outside of Christianity.