▲ 334 ▼ Nobel peace prize winner María Corina Machado offers to sell $1.7 trillion of Venezuela's assets to US corporations (www.geopoliticaleconomy.report) submitted 10 months ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 72 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 40 points 10 months ago (11 children) Ah, so it's wałęsa type of nobel. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 56 points 10 months ago (8 children) I feel like at least half of the peace prizes have been given to pro-western / color revolution "dissidents" since the 60s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago And the other half to the war mongers like Henry Kissinger and Obama. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (6 children) Also, wasn’t the Nobel Prize kind of just a western PR stunt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) The science ones are generally legitimate. The literature and peace prizes have been wholly co-opted by western interests. The economics prize isn’t even a real Nobel, it’s just a prize sponsored by the Swedish central bank and administered by the Nobel Institute, and it’s a pure PR tool for legitimizing neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago The peace prize yes. They've made really questionable choices from Kissinger to Obama (Who really did win because Not Bush). No one should take it seriously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Regna@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) At least Wałęsa didn’t want his nation to die under tyranny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* That's a very risky statement. wałęsa is the personification of the worst stereotypes of lumpenproletariat, he would DID sold entire nation under the tyranny of the exact same capitalism she is doing. If that would entail violent forever war at the hand of USA, why not, in a blink. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 56 points 10 months ago (8 children) I feel like at least half of the peace prizes have been given to pro-western / color revolution "dissidents" since the 60s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago And the other half to the war mongers like Henry Kissinger and Obama. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (6 children) Also, wasn’t the Nobel Prize kind of just a western PR stunt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) The science ones are generally legitimate. The literature and peace prizes have been wholly co-opted by western interests. The economics prize isn’t even a real Nobel, it’s just a prize sponsored by the Swedish central bank and administered by the Nobel Institute, and it’s a pure PR tool for legitimizing neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago The peace prize yes. They've made really questionable choices from Kissinger to Obama (Who really did win because Not Bush). No one should take it seriously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago And the other half to the war mongers like Henry Kissinger and Obama. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nothx@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (6 children) Also, wasn’t the Nobel Prize kind of just a western PR stunt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) The science ones are generally legitimate. The literature and peace prizes have been wholly co-opted by western interests. The economics prize isn’t even a real Nobel, it’s just a prize sponsored by the Swedish central bank and administered by the Nobel Institute, and it’s a pure PR tool for legitimizing neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago The peace prize yes. They've made really questionable choices from Kissinger to Obama (Who really did win because Not Bush). No one should take it seriously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) The science ones are generally legitimate. The literature and peace prizes have been wholly co-opted by western interests. The economics prize isn’t even a real Nobel, it’s just a prize sponsored by the Swedish central bank and administered by the Nobel Institute, and it’s a pure PR tool for legitimizing neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago The peace prize yes. They've made really questionable choices from Kissinger to Obama (Who really did win because Not Bush). No one should take it seriously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Regna@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 child) At least Wałęsa didn’t want his nation to die under tyranny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* That's a very risky statement. wałęsa is the personification of the worst stereotypes of lumpenproletariat, he would DID sold entire nation under the tyranny of the exact same capitalism she is doing. If that would entail violent forever war at the hand of USA, why not, in a blink. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* That's a very risky statement. wałęsa is the personification of the worst stereotypes of lumpenproletariat, he would DID sold entire nation under the tyranny of the exact same capitalism she is doing. If that would entail violent forever war at the hand of USA, why not, in a blink. permalink fedilink source parent