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Hell yeah! 180 month loans when the average car msrp is $50,080 and climbing. Crapitalism truly is the "You will own nothing and be happy." ideology. (hexbear.net)
submitted 10 months ago* by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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But don't worry, you will be at moderate risk of the car breaking down before 10,000 miles and you can't fix the part because it has been deliberately engineered so that mechanics can't fix it and it has to be replaced.

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[–] 13 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I mean I don't drive much, obv, but I've never had a car younger than 15 years and they all held out for years. Is there like a split here when they enshittified the things that hard?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I think the problem is you need expensive scan tools to diagnose modern cars and even just do basic maintenance.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    The scanners aren't nearly as expensive as they used to be. You can get bluetooth OBD2 scan dongles for about $30. Sure those don't have all the features of the pro scan tools, but they'll read codes and that's all most people need.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Can the cheap OBD2 tools reset maintenance intervals, TPMS, etc? My perception was you had to spend a lot more to get scantools that would do that stuff. Newest car I've owned is a 2001, newest bike a 2009 and it was still carbureted, so I've never dealt with the modern stuff personally.

    edit: and just to vent, I work on a family member's car pretty often and it's a 2014 - it has no dipsticks. You have to work through a bunch of menus and idle the car until warm before the dash will give you an actual oil level reading. I hate modern cars.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I'm not sure if they can reset the maintenance intervals. All the cars I've owned or worked on, those are reset through menus or other means.

    Also 100% agree on modern cars. One of my dads vehicles needed a special factory tool to change the sparkplugs. It's complete bullshit.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    2014 - it has no dipsticks

    That's wild, but it's a problem with specific models/manufacturers, not the entire industry. i have a 2018 car and a 2022 motorcycle and both are pretty maintenance friendly.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I think maybe it's all VAG products that lost the dipsticks. They seem to still have the dip stick tubes, but with plugs in the top. You can buy an aftermarket dip stick for like $50, which I've been meaning to do.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Don’t you typically reset the dash lights through codes in the cab? Like, my maintenance light resets by doing something like turning the key five times and pushing a button, I can’t remember because it’s been a few years.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Not on the '14 VAG car my family member has - requires a scantool to reset intervals. I am not a new car toucher so I have no idea otherwise. I find carburetors relaxing and soothing. Anything with a PCB in a black box gets my hackles up, including my 2001 truck that suddenly recently decided to start running a high idle. If it were a carb, that'd be fixed with a scredriver and about five minutes... With this old Toyota it seems that I have to do a hail mary purchase of a refurbed ECU on the hope that it solves the high idle and A/C clutch not engaging below 1500RPM.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    At the very least, it will prevent you from needing to pay the $35 OBDII fee that most mechanics have. They'll still use it because they never believe you when you say what codes yours spit out, but they won't be able to charge you for something you specifically mentioned when you bring your car in.

    I have one and I make sure they can see it when I drop my car off.

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