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I enjoyed Baldur's Gate 3, but I am now enjoying Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous significantly more. (hexbear.net)
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I'm not throwing shade at BG3; I've also enjoyed it, but something about the sheer amount of options and more widely diverging story paths in Wrath just does it more for me. I also like the art style more, but that's strictly subjective and I accept that.

To a lesser and more personal extent, I despise Wizards of the Coast/Hasbro and their recurring attempts to monopolize and bully third party game developers and players alike and I don't like to even indirectly trickle money their way compared to Paizo. Yes yes, no ethical consumption and all that, but Paizo's way less fucked up with both distributing game materials and open licensing agreements.

https://www.polygon.com/23553389/dnd-ogl-paizo-orc-open-rpg-creative-license-announcement

That's all I had to say. If you've already finished BG3 or it wasn't quite to your liking and you'd like an alternative, give Wrath a try. only-good-gamer

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[–] 14 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

I’m loving bg3 but there’s some elements of it that bother me a bit. Like… I’ve been at it for 20+ hours and I don’t feel like I’ve really been able to enjoy existing in the world bc the stakes are so dire and I’m rushed from one thing to another.

Granted, I get that’s more realistic than Bethesda being like “here’s a world ending narrative now off you go to faff about for 30 hours before coming back to it” but I wish they would have put some breaks in the story the way morrowind did bc it feels like every quest in the main line so far has had an air of urgency and hinted that some of it may be timed. I know Larian loves their “if you don’t do x by y time, one of the characters winds up dead” situations from playing some of their other games and the EA so I always feel really rushed to make sure I don’t miss something by exploring too much.

Personally the action economy is way more logical in PF than in 5e but I do like the way Larian realized it in the game it’s just a shame that I think a lot of their fights are kinda BS especially compared to wotr. I’m pretty tired of mundane fights having way more enemies than is honestly necessary (especially when the sleeping mechanic seems to advance aspects of the story a bit), like the big major fights with lots of enemies in wotr always feel bigger and more poignant bc they’re not as common.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I’m loving bg3 but there’s some elements of it that bother me a bit. Like… I’ve been at it for 20+ hours and I don’t feel like I’ve really been able to enjoy existing in the world bc the stakes are so dire and I’m rushed from one thing to another.

    I rushed so hard, on purpose, on the first day of BG3 because I was aware of Larian's usual shenanigans and that actually made some character moments glitch out. I didn't long rest until the druids and the tiefling refugees were safe from the goblins and that caused some kind of story arc traffic jam where every rest after that had a confusing series of events. d20-ah-fuck

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't long rest until the druids and the tiefling refugees were safe from the goblins

    jesus-christ

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    That's the power of bards, short rests taken carefully, and using a lot of potions and having a martial-heavy party with very few spell slots. no-copyright

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Its urgency is pretty much entirely artificial. It does feel urgent in terms of the dialogue and events, but unless there's a countdown timer on your screen or a warning popping up asking if you want to proceed before tying up loose ends you are basically not on a timer. There are a handful of time sensitive side-quests or side-quests that will expire if you proceed too far down a separate path, which is annoying because they don't always tell you about these. My only suggestion is to explore wide before exploring deep if you want to be semi-completionist, and also just accept you cannot be completionist within a single playthrough as there are some exclusive forks that alter the world quite a bit and the quests downstream of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    There are a handful of time sensitive side-quests or side-quests that will expire if you proceed too far down a separate path, which is annoying because they don't always tell you about these

    Yeah this is entirely the issue bc im aware of a couple of situations where if you dont save someone by a specific time they end up dead. Theres like 5 quests in a row throughout the first two acts that involve saving someone where its hinted that they may end up dying if youre not timely and it's hard to know which is flavor text and which is actual warning to get your ass in gear.

    It isn't really about being a completionist, i dont care about choices changing things, Its that i want to explore and have some time to vibe but the main story feels like a lot of pressure to keep moving. i just dont love feeling like i'm always on 10 with the stakes. Thats just the way the game is, i was just hoping id have more time to hang or at the very least not have to play so long to get to a proper city/town (haven't made it to baldurs gate yet)

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