▲ 569 ▼ GrapheneOS is finally ready to break free from Pixels, and it may never look back (www.androidauthority.com) submitted 10 months ago by solrize@lemmy.ml to c/android@lemmy.world 110 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Arondeus@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children) I'm out of the loop. Any examples of this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 months ago* (3 children) They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn't take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon. They have good points, but they're often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit. They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 child) I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too worse than what? What browser is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Reminds me of our good friends on Lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago it's called effortposting permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org -3 points 10 months ago* (1 child) wasn't that in the pqst? wasn't that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn't that person off the team now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you're talking about Daniel Micay, he's still heavily involved. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven't really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he's no longer the main dev. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 10 months ago* (3 children) They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn't take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon. They have good points, but they're often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit. They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 child) I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too worse than what? What browser is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Reminds me of our good friends on Lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago it's called effortposting permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org -3 points 10 months ago* (1 child) wasn't that in the pqst? wasn't that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn't that person off the team now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you're talking about Daniel Micay, he's still heavily involved. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven't really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he's no longer the main dev. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 child) I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too worse than what? What browser is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too worse than what? What browser is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Yes that is what they said. But the way they said it made me doubt that it matters quite so much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too worse than what? What browser is better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not gonna bother looking up references, but security and privacy are two different things (since I'm assuming that's what you're implying). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, fair enough permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Reminds me of our good friends on Lemmygrad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago it's called effortposting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago it's called effortposting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] berber@feddit.org -3 points 10 months ago* (1 child) wasn't that in the pqst? wasn't that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn't that person off the team now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you're talking about Daniel Micay, he's still heavily involved. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven't really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he's no longer the main dev. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you're talking about Daniel Micay, he's still heavily involved. I'm pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven't really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he's no longer the main dev. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] berber@feddit.org 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago That's what I've been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] berber@feddit.org 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) yes i meant daniel micay. ah okay didn't know he was heavily involved. by "the accounts" i assume you are referring to social media accounts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, the social media accounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic. permalink fedilink source parent