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[–] 11 points 11 months ago (31 children)

People voted for a guy that said he would stand up for Canada after Trumps deranged threats. Instead they got a zionist worm that folds at the slightest whisper of "tariff".

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (14 children)

    As opposed to a Nazi simp who would have sold us straight into the gas chambers of America? Right call. Every time.

    Also so far Carney has been harder on Israel than any Canadian prime minister to date. So get out of here will your bullshit propaganda calling him a Zionist. Go back to the US.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Strange. We don't have a two party system, but somehow the seat distribution reflects that. If only the Librerals addressed FPTP like promised during their "crisis election" of the time.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    If pigs could fly we’d have less bacon. Are you new or did you forget we vote for the least bad party? There was only one option last election that would not result in PP getting in. But you keep going on fantasizing.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Literally nothing in the parent comment even alludes to PP what are you even talking about?

    Also so far Carney has been harder on Israel than any Canadian prime minister to date.

    Really? What did he do? Not say, do.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You know exactly what he’s done. Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.

    There is nothing else Canada can do anyways. Do you want us to get into hot war with Israel and subsequently the US? I don’t. And we have no other leverage.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.

    It would be an important step within a context of action, but when the context is unchanged complicity it's hard to see it as anything but a smokescreen.

    There is nothing else Canada can do anyways.

    Boycott, Divest, Sanction moment. Other than that, send the navy to escort their activists going on a humanitarian mission in international waters. Should the Canadian government not be protecting its citizens?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    He could stop lying about the selling of arm to israel, he can do a both way arm ambargo and impose sanctions on the state of israel. He should apologize about saying that a palestinian state need to be a zionist palestine. He could acknowledge the genocide and stop pretending. He should take action on the people who was selling land of occupied west bank in synagogues

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    He is a Zionist, he wants a "Zionist Palestine". What does that mean, other then he supports the Zionists agenda of murdering and replacing all Palestinians? At the same time his government continues to sell weapons to Israel, while saying they aren't.

    Thus, for all intents and purposes, Carney is a Zionist as he is actively supporting Israels goals.

    https://www.cjpmemap.ca/2025_06_25_lb_cbc_news

    https://rachelgilmore.substack.com/p/carney-reiterates-call-for-a-zionist

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    He defines it right here and it’s not your little fantasy definition: https://youtube.com/shorts/Sjg8r43vPMc

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You think we are fools aren't you. Zionism is very clear you can just check the writing of Herzl and Zionist leaders to know what it is . Caney can't just invent another definition.

    He said that Palestinians should accept Israel but we should all know that it is Israel that is the settler colonial power who occupied Palestinians land and ethnically cleansing them multiple time. Israel couldn't have been created without mass displacements because jews only owned 5% to 8% of land and was geographically dispersed.

    He talk about how Palestinians should behave to get their states while Canada was quickly recognizing Israel after the Nekba and the multiple Zionist terrorist operations

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Ah yes, as we saw in the US the best thing to do when a left-leaning leader isn't as harsh on Israel as we'd like is to swing our support over to the right-leaning leader.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Trump won because Americans was fooled by his promise of fixing the economy and Carney will lose for the same reason next time and like in the USA they will be people who claim that Palestine is the reason he lost and the other side with complain about how anti occupation people are the reason Carney lose

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    Is that what the poster said? This isn't America, we have 3rd and even 4th and 5th parties to choose from. There's no reason to vote for the zionist if you want a principled anti-Zionist party like the NDP.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a "spoiler" that helps out a party that doesn't align ideologically with the voter who's casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.

    Thanks, first-past-the-post.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your "strategic voting". All it's done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's not my decision, unfortunately. It's a structural feature that's inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don't vote strategically then you are "throwing your vote away" whether you believe it or not.

    Canada's been fortunate in having some ridings where a national "third party" was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it's a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn't ultimately a question of "Liberal or Conservative?" Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.

    I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau's greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada's last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don't like it doesn't mean I can't recognize the actual situation we're facing.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I consider Trudeau's greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada's last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate.

    This is worth all the upvotes in this discussion.

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  • [+] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Canadian imports and exports are an absolutely massive ship to change course -especially when a lot of private contracts are years into the future. That said, we are already trading a lot more with pretty much everyone except the US.

    https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/features/2025/canada-international-trade/

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    FWIW, He's better on the Gaza issue than Trudeau.

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