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Where does Palantir get the data from to begin with? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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They don't have a social media service, right? So where do they get the data to train their AI models ? Surely they need a lot, right? It would be nice if the public knew who cooperates with them (other than governments) and just boycott their services, or at least pressure them.

If company X doesn't offer your data to governments officials, but offers them to Palantir which makes a profile of you that it offer to the same officials, isn't that even worse ?

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

better than posting the photos of your birthday on Instagram

That'll protect your data from random stalkers or smaller companies, but Palantir has so many data brokers and the cooperation of the government that you can't function in society without giving them data.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ok, but it's one thing to give them my name and face, for example, and it's another to let them know my political orientation.

    I don't know, it seems a good compromise to me, but it's true that I don't have any need of more privacy than that to live in safety (for now at least), so maybe my point of view is too limited.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I drive a car that cannot be easily tracked (has no electronics, outside a radio),

    Unfortunately, most road cameras in the US are owned and operated by private companies who are perfectly welling to sell that data in real time. Your license plate is very easy to read, and it's a number that's uniquely identifying. If police want to use it in courts they usually need to prove you're actually the driver, but if it's an entity not really concerned with that it'll do a great job tracking you. I try to bike wherever I can, they generally don't have any personally identifying information.

    YouTube is my privacy vice, I admit.

    Have you heard of Invidious? Or the Duck Player? You can use YouTube without giving YouTube your data, though it might not work quite as well.

    More privacy is better than less privacy.

    I do a lot personally to increase my own privacy, from running GrapheneOS (usually with airplane mode on, which actually fully disables cellular (I used an RTL-SDR to check, and nothing with my IMEI was broadcasting)), to not using social media (besides Lemmy, I guess), to running Arch Linux w/ LibreFox as my primary browser, to not using Amazon, to getting my friends and family to use Signal as our primary means of communication.

    But letting privacy be a personal thing just means that the vast majority of people will have their privacy completely compromised, and that it'll be very easy for privacy-concious people to slip up. Privacy should be a right, not a privilege, and the only way to do that is to go to the source: explicitly targeting, sabotaging, and campaigning against data brokers and large private companies that collect peoples data. Until we force them to stop, there is no privacy, just the illusion of privacy.

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