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But I don't like the burning! (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/casualuk@feddit.uk
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[–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

The UK doesn't have much naturally growing spicy things either, and spicy food is still pervasive here.

It's what having virtually no immigration from the east or the med does to cuisine in a country.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yes but is traditional british food spicy?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Traditional to when? We've had spices here for centuries And they were barely used in British food.

    It was waves of Indian, Asian, and Afro-carribean migration that lead to changes in cuisine here.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Traditional to before any mass migration from the colonies I'd say.

    Like the food the Brits made themselves. If they had these spices and used them that is fine. But claiming dishes that came in with immigration I would not count

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    You're agreeing with me. You said that not having any natural spices lead to a culture not eating any spicy food. I said that having a lot immigration from countries with spicy food changes that, as proven in much of the western world.

    You're right, food in countries that had no spices at that time wasn't spicy. I'm not sure that says anything very interesting though.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes but the food that comes in with inmigration is not the native culture's food. It can get integrated but it is still not native food. If I am expressing this correctly.

    Like is it tikka masala or something similar that comes from britain. But I would not call that british food. If you get what I mean.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You can draw an arbitrary line in the sand anywhere and say anything after it is not from that place. Are all the French influenced dishes in Britain not British? What about Saxon or Norse? Again, this doesn't seem helpful framing.

    The traditional foods of a country, to me, include what is eaten broadly over recent generations.

    As for Tikka Masala, is tea drinking not British too?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah well I am allowed to draw the line where I want aren't I? And I will say traditional European (northern and eastern mostly) food is just not spicy since really spicy stuff does not grow there and people figured out different methods of preserving food.

    Let's just leave it at that.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, draw the lines where it suits your argument I guess. If it helps you dictate to people what their traditions are then it's all coming up Milhouse for you, eh?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I am not dictating anybody's traditions. We just have differing views on what constitutes traditional food. Many other countries have also not experienced such mass migrations as the UK (colonialism much?) and thus their cuisine has not changed that drastically from like 100 years ago

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Many other countries have also not experienced such mass migrations as the UK (colonialism much?) and thus their cuisine has not changed that drastically from like 100 years ago

    Dude that is what I was saying! We are agreeing!

    I have had this discussion with my polish colleagues frequently given the difference in immigration levels between UK and Poland.

    We always note the irony of Polish people being one of the largest migrant groups in the UK now, but the food and traditions being poorly integrated. (That said you can get some wonderful sausage and cured meats at supermarkets now that we can thank them for).

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