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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (5 children) I think the only controversy is that this series spends too big a chunk on “silly” episodes like this. Puppets. Singing/dancing. Holodeck spoofs. This would be fine if it were a 23 episode season. It’s 10. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Because it’s impossible to get the execs to approve a 23-episode season of almost anything these days, let alone sci-fi, but one of the (many) criticisms of Discovery was that it was lacking the more offbeat episodes and character pieces that helped define Trek’s golden age. Rock and a hard place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) Costs are a big factor. Shit costs a lot of money to make nowadays. They used to use cheap cardboard and foam, models for shops flying through space, etc. now it all takes time and money to make us all go WOW! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago Yeah, that is sad. I enjoy seeing futuristic aliens and ships too, but I guess I've never really understood why a lot of these shows have to look like movies now. I would be perfectly happy to see them cut those fancy effects way back and spend some of that money on some good writers to make a few more episodes. I've found I very rarely remember how good the CGI monster or alien building looked, but I often remember what the characters said. No, I'm not as old as I sound! ;-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) for me, the foam rocks and rubber foreheads were part of the fun, like watching a magic show where you know where to look. i would be thrilled if all of SNW looked like the TOS parody from this episode, especially if it brought back 24-episode seasons. probably not a common sentiment though lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago I mean, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Not judt costs but the production schedule for the actors and crew. 23 episodes is one every 2 weeks with just a couple weeks off for the entire year. This also lead to a lot of garbage filler episodes regardless of the series. I do prefer more that 8-10 episodes but 20+ is a bit much too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I think you're not remembering the amount of silliness on previous shows, let's analyze TNG S2: Serious Episodes 59% (13 episodes) "Where Silence Has Lease" "Loud as a Whisper" "The Schizoid Man" "Unnatural Selection" "A Matter of Honor" "The Measure of a Man" "Contagion" "Time Squared" "The Icarus Factor" "Pen Pals" "Q Who" "The Emissary" "Peak Performance" Not Serious Episodes: 41% (9 episodes) "The Child" (Troi's immaculate space-conception) "Elementary, Dear Data" ("Holodeck gone wrong" story) "The Outrageous Okona" (Data learns comedy) "The Dauphin" (Shapeshifting monster princess) "The Royale" (Another "holodeck gone wrong" story with no holodeck) "Samaritan Snare" (We are smart) "Up the Long Ladder" (Space irish) "Manhunt" (Lwaxana Troi is on the hunt for a husband) "Shades of Gray" (A clip show) I think it's a good proportion of silly so far... e: I made the same analysis for TNG S3, and I could only identify 3 silly episodes, so, I don't know. Take this with a grain of salt. Maybe SNW S4 is all business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think it's fair to call all those "not serious" just because they had some cheesy aspects, especially when in some cases it was just in the B plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago yes, I agree that the "not serious" label is probably not that accurate, but they were written to have fun with the material, and I don't agree that any of them had the cheese in the B-plot. They were adventures, most of them, but also with a silly aspect that sits at the core of Trek. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I mean, I wish TNG was a little less silly too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I haven't seen the most recent episode yet, but so far the best episodes this season have been the silly episodes. Strange New Worlds season 3 spoilers Episode 1, the second part of two parter. Neat trick to make the Gorn sleep but otherwise boring. Episode 2, a fun Trelane/Q wedding episode. (Silly) Episode 3, zombies I think. Episode 4, hologram episode, the best parts of which were the over the top parts. (Half silly) Episode 5, the best serious episode exploring the ruins and solving puzzles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just a heads up, it says "season 2” in the spoiler tag, then discusses episodes from season 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Lol, you're right, season 3, fixed permalink fedilink source parent [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wait. I missed a muppet Star Trek episode?! Where?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago No, not yet. It was announced, I think for season 4. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) God, does it have puppets?? I hope whoever is tainting all of the live action shows with puppets goes away soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) What other live action shows have been “tainted” by puppets recently? For me nothing recent comes to mind. Now older shows like Far Scape? I love that show, muppets and all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't know about recent, but Community and My Name is Earl are two examples that come immediately to mind. God I hate those episodes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) You said "all of the live action shows" and then proceed to cite two that are a decade old, and one that's complete shit anyhow. Followed by an admission that you "don't keep up with live tv". How high are you, exactly? 🤦🏼♂️ edit: TBF, I totally get the "post to spark interaction to fill the widening, lonely void in one's soul", and am not one to judge. Could you do so with a little more kindness involved, though? The hyperbolic whinge isn't winning you any friends, and it's counterproductive in that way, neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) The "Community" episode was over a decade ago... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago How about the Scrubs one with Sesame Street? That was good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Because it’s impossible to get the execs to approve a 23-episode season of almost anything these days, let alone sci-fi, but one of the (many) criticisms of Discovery was that it was lacking the more offbeat episodes and character pieces that helped define Trek’s golden age. Rock and a hard place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) Costs are a big factor. Shit costs a lot of money to make nowadays. They used to use cheap cardboard and foam, models for shops flying through space, etc. now it all takes time and money to make us all go WOW! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago Yeah, that is sad. I enjoy seeing futuristic aliens and ships too, but I guess I've never really understood why a lot of these shows have to look like movies now. I would be perfectly happy to see them cut those fancy effects way back and spend some of that money on some good writers to make a few more episodes. I've found I very rarely remember how good the CGI monster or alien building looked, but I often remember what the characters said. No, I'm not as old as I sound! ;-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) for me, the foam rocks and rubber foreheads were part of the fun, like watching a magic show where you know where to look. i would be thrilled if all of SNW looked like the TOS parody from this episode, especially if it brought back 24-episode seasons. probably not a common sentiment though lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago I mean, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Not judt costs but the production schedule for the actors and crew. 23 episodes is one every 2 weeks with just a couple weeks off for the entire year. This also lead to a lot of garbage filler episodes regardless of the series. I do prefer more that 8-10 episodes but 20+ is a bit much too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) Costs are a big factor. Shit costs a lot of money to make nowadays. They used to use cheap cardboard and foam, models for shops flying through space, etc. now it all takes time and money to make us all go WOW! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago Yeah, that is sad. I enjoy seeing futuristic aliens and ships too, but I guess I've never really understood why a lot of these shows have to look like movies now. I would be perfectly happy to see them cut those fancy effects way back and spend some of that money on some good writers to make a few more episodes. I've found I very rarely remember how good the CGI monster or alien building looked, but I often remember what the characters said. No, I'm not as old as I sound! ;-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) for me, the foam rocks and rubber foreheads were part of the fun, like watching a magic show where you know where to look. i would be thrilled if all of SNW looked like the TOS parody from this episode, especially if it brought back 24-episode seasons. probably not a common sentiment though lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago I mean, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Not judt costs but the production schedule for the actors and crew. 23 episodes is one every 2 weeks with just a couple weeks off for the entire year. This also lead to a lot of garbage filler episodes regardless of the series. I do prefer more that 8-10 episodes but 20+ is a bit much too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago Yeah, that is sad. I enjoy seeing futuristic aliens and ships too, but I guess I've never really understood why a lot of these shows have to look like movies now. I would be perfectly happy to see them cut those fancy effects way back and spend some of that money on some good writers to make a few more episodes. I've found I very rarely remember how good the CGI monster or alien building looked, but I often remember what the characters said. No, I'm not as old as I sound! ;-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) for me, the foam rocks and rubber foreheads were part of the fun, like watching a magic show where you know where to look. i would be thrilled if all of SNW looked like the TOS parody from this episode, especially if it brought back 24-episode seasons. probably not a common sentiment though lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago I mean, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Not judt costs but the production schedule for the actors and crew. 23 episodes is one every 2 weeks with just a couple weeks off for the entire year. This also lead to a lot of garbage filler episodes regardless of the series. I do prefer more that 8-10 episodes but 20+ is a bit much too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I think you're not remembering the amount of silliness on previous shows, let's analyze TNG S2: Serious Episodes 59% (13 episodes) "Where Silence Has Lease" "Loud as a Whisper" "The Schizoid Man" "Unnatural Selection" "A Matter of Honor" "The Measure of a Man" "Contagion" "Time Squared" "The Icarus Factor" "Pen Pals" "Q Who" "The Emissary" "Peak Performance" Not Serious Episodes: 41% (9 episodes) "The Child" (Troi's immaculate space-conception) "Elementary, Dear Data" ("Holodeck gone wrong" story) "The Outrageous Okona" (Data learns comedy) "The Dauphin" (Shapeshifting monster princess) "The Royale" (Another "holodeck gone wrong" story with no holodeck) "Samaritan Snare" (We are smart) "Up the Long Ladder" (Space irish) "Manhunt" (Lwaxana Troi is on the hunt for a husband) "Shades of Gray" (A clip show) I think it's a good proportion of silly so far... e: I made the same analysis for TNG S3, and I could only identify 3 silly episodes, so, I don't know. Take this with a grain of salt. Maybe SNW S4 is all business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think it's fair to call all those "not serious" just because they had some cheesy aspects, especially when in some cases it was just in the B plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago yes, I agree that the "not serious" label is probably not that accurate, but they were written to have fun with the material, and I don't agree that any of them had the cheese in the B-plot. They were adventures, most of them, but also with a silly aspect that sits at the core of Trek. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I mean, I wish TNG was a little less silly too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think it's fair to call all those "not serious" just because they had some cheesy aspects, especially when in some cases it was just in the B plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago yes, I agree that the "not serious" label is probably not that accurate, but they were written to have fun with the material, and I don't agree that any of them had the cheese in the B-plot. They were adventures, most of them, but also with a silly aspect that sits at the core of Trek. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 5 points 1 year ago yes, I agree that the "not serious" label is probably not that accurate, but they were written to have fun with the material, and I don't agree that any of them had the cheese in the B-plot. They were adventures, most of them, but also with a silly aspect that sits at the core of Trek. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I mean, I wish TNG was a little less silly too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) I haven't seen the most recent episode yet, but so far the best episodes this season have been the silly episodes. Strange New Worlds season 3 spoilers Episode 1, the second part of two parter. Neat trick to make the Gorn sleep but otherwise boring. Episode 2, a fun Trelane/Q wedding episode. (Silly) Episode 3, zombies I think. Episode 4, hologram episode, the best parts of which were the over the top parts. (Half silly) Episode 5, the best serious episode exploring the ruins and solving puzzles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just a heads up, it says "season 2” in the spoiler tag, then discusses episodes from season 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Lol, you're right, season 3, fixed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just a heads up, it says "season 2” in the spoiler tag, then discusses episodes from season 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Lol, you're right, season 3, fixed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Lol, you're right, season 3, fixed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Wait. I missed a muppet Star Trek episode?! Where?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago No, not yet. It was announced, I think for season 4. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago No, not yet. It was announced, I think for season 4. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) God, does it have puppets?? I hope whoever is tainting all of the live action shows with puppets goes away soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) What other live action shows have been “tainted” by puppets recently? For me nothing recent comes to mind. Now older shows like Far Scape? I love that show, muppets and all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't know about recent, but Community and My Name is Earl are two examples that come immediately to mind. God I hate those episodes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) You said "all of the live action shows" and then proceed to cite two that are a decade old, and one that's complete shit anyhow. Followed by an admission that you "don't keep up with live tv". How high are you, exactly? 🤦🏼♂️ edit: TBF, I totally get the "post to spark interaction to fill the widening, lonely void in one's soul", and am not one to judge. Could you do so with a little more kindness involved, though? The hyperbolic whinge isn't winning you any friends, and it's counterproductive in that way, neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) The "Community" episode was over a decade ago... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago How about the Scrubs one with Sesame Street? That was good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) What other live action shows have been “tainted” by puppets recently? For me nothing recent comes to mind. Now older shows like Far Scape? I love that show, muppets and all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't know about recent, but Community and My Name is Earl are two examples that come immediately to mind. God I hate those episodes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) You said "all of the live action shows" and then proceed to cite two that are a decade old, and one that's complete shit anyhow. Followed by an admission that you "don't keep up with live tv". How high are you, exactly? 🤦🏼♂️ edit: TBF, I totally get the "post to spark interaction to fill the widening, lonely void in one's soul", and am not one to judge. Could you do so with a little more kindness involved, though? The hyperbolic whinge isn't winning you any friends, and it's counterproductive in that way, neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) The "Community" episode was over a decade ago... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago How about the Scrubs one with Sesame Street? That was good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) I don't know about recent, but Community and My Name is Earl are two examples that come immediately to mind. God I hate those episodes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) You said "all of the live action shows" and then proceed to cite two that are a decade old, and one that's complete shit anyhow. Followed by an admission that you "don't keep up with live tv". How high are you, exactly? 🤦🏼♂️ edit: TBF, I totally get the "post to spark interaction to fill the widening, lonely void in one's soul", and am not one to judge. Could you do so with a little more kindness involved, though? The hyperbolic whinge isn't winning you any friends, and it's counterproductive in that way, neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) The "Community" episode was over a decade ago... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago How about the Scrubs one with Sesame Street? That was good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child) You said "all of the live action shows" and then proceed to cite two that are a decade old, and one that's complete shit anyhow. Followed by an admission that you "don't keep up with live tv". How high are you, exactly? 🤦🏼♂️ edit: TBF, I totally get the "post to spark interaction to fill the widening, lonely void in one's soul", and am not one to judge. Could you do so with a little more kindness involved, though? The hyperbolic whinge isn't winning you any friends, and it's counterproductive in that way, neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Linktank@lemmy.today -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to discourage puppet episodes of otherwise live action series. They are bad. The people who make them should feel bad. Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. I'm sorry that I used the phrase "all" and it didn't actually mean every single show in existence. I should have known that the pedantry of the internet wouldn't allow the usage of an absolute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* I'm not here to make friends Oh, phew. This'll be a short conversation then. Good. Unrelated question: how far down your own shaft are you, anyway? Like fully molars-meet-balls level and now questioning everything, or are you still that plucky teary-eyed-but-hopeful noob? It's challenging to get a read, I'll admit, but I think smart money's on the latter. We're rooting for you, bud. Well, not as much as you are, but you know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Hell even Stargate SG-1 had a weird puppet episode. no it didn't, it had one very short segment in a brilliant episode, you're exaggerating a crazy amount. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Boy you guys sure froth at the mouth when somebody suggests that live action shows shouldn't include characters played by dolls. Especially when that's not the traditional format of the show. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago pointing out that you are making things up is not "frothing at the mouth". making things up, wildly exaggerating is more like that. in short : no u permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) The "Community" episode was over a decade ago... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't be silly. Hah! A decade ago! Community didn't exist as a TV programme in the 1990s! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know, it hurts doesn’t it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago Like my knees :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago I don't keep up on live TV any more. Too many advertisements. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago How about the Scrubs one with Sesame Street? That was good permalink fedilink source parent