▲ 553 ▼ Steven Fulop, the Mayor of Jersey City. He is smarter than the average american politician. (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by DwZ@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source : Xcancel Props to him 👏👏👏
[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (1 child) Idk who this Brad Davis guy is, but he is pretty obviously garbage with trash opinions permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shininghero@pawb.social 64 points 1 year ago (3 children) The only point that was even remotely valid was the "over 30" bit, and that's already covered by laws on e-bike classifications. If your e-bike doesn't cut pedal assist at 28, or throttle only at 20, it is now a motorcycle and must be licensed and registered as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children) I get mad at this stuff. A motorcycle license is not that hard to get; just take MSF. Add turn signals and a license plate holder, and remove the vestigial pedals, and you're basically there. Just from an engineering perspective, bike parts are not meant for that kind of speed and torque. The frames can't handle it, the tires can't handle it, the chains can't handle it, and the brakes can't handle it. If you want motorcycle speeds, get motorcycle parts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) just take MSF Honestly everyone should be taking a class like MSF just to drive. They would certainly understand aggressive road behavior, peoples driving patterns, etc so much better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I briefly rode a motorcycle back in the day and I can say that taking a motorcycle safety course absolutely improved my driving. It helped me become more aware of cyclists and bikers on the road and made me more aware of how my actions impacted how the bike (or car) moved. It was incredibly helpful and I would recommend it to anyone even if you're not interested in riding a motorcycle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago When I got my motorcycle license, plenty of people in the class failed. I think I only passed because the weekend before my buddy said let's rent scooters and ride around. Got me used to it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) An e-bike that provides petal assist up to 28 MPH is a class 3 Motorized Bicycle and requires license and registration. Also can't take it on bicycle paths. https://thecyclistchoice.com/resources/new-jersey-ebike-laws/ You can only go up to 20MPH for class 1 (petal assist only) and 2 (has a throttle) e-bikes and those you can take anywhere a regular bike can go. So if the bike is doing ~30, they're supposed to have license and registration just like any other vehicle on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shininghero@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago Oh. Right. I forgot that varies between states. Mine allows class 3 without a license. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is fucking insane to me. 30 kilometres (18mph) is the speed limit where I live. People pass me (on a scooter going about 15-18mph) all the time but I'm pretty sure nobody goes quite as fast as 30MPH. That's crazy that's like 50km which is the legal car speed limit on most residential streets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago Also, a fraction of cyclists riding non-electric bikes have a habit of moving faster than 18 mph, by the looks of it maybe even 30 mph But since I'm barely capable of passing 18 mph limit myself, and usually prefer to ride even slower, I am not quite sure how fast are they permalink fedilink source parent [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* .. and most importantly, operated as one--including all the same 'rules of the road' as other 'motorized vehicles'. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shininghero@pawb.social 64 points 1 year ago (3 children) The only point that was even remotely valid was the "over 30" bit, and that's already covered by laws on e-bike classifications. If your e-bike doesn't cut pedal assist at 28, or throttle only at 20, it is now a motorcycle and must be licensed and registered as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children) I get mad at this stuff. A motorcycle license is not that hard to get; just take MSF. Add turn signals and a license plate holder, and remove the vestigial pedals, and you're basically there. Just from an engineering perspective, bike parts are not meant for that kind of speed and torque. The frames can't handle it, the tires can't handle it, the chains can't handle it, and the brakes can't handle it. If you want motorcycle speeds, get motorcycle parts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) just take MSF Honestly everyone should be taking a class like MSF just to drive. They would certainly understand aggressive road behavior, peoples driving patterns, etc so much better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I briefly rode a motorcycle back in the day and I can say that taking a motorcycle safety course absolutely improved my driving. It helped me become more aware of cyclists and bikers on the road and made me more aware of how my actions impacted how the bike (or car) moved. It was incredibly helpful and I would recommend it to anyone even if you're not interested in riding a motorcycle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago When I got my motorcycle license, plenty of people in the class failed. I think I only passed because the weekend before my buddy said let's rent scooters and ride around. Got me used to it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) An e-bike that provides petal assist up to 28 MPH is a class 3 Motorized Bicycle and requires license and registration. Also can't take it on bicycle paths. https://thecyclistchoice.com/resources/new-jersey-ebike-laws/ You can only go up to 20MPH for class 1 (petal assist only) and 2 (has a throttle) e-bikes and those you can take anywhere a regular bike can go. So if the bike is doing ~30, they're supposed to have license and registration just like any other vehicle on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shininghero@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago Oh. Right. I forgot that varies between states. Mine allows class 3 without a license. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is fucking insane to me. 30 kilometres (18mph) is the speed limit where I live. People pass me (on a scooter going about 15-18mph) all the time but I'm pretty sure nobody goes quite as fast as 30MPH. That's crazy that's like 50km which is the legal car speed limit on most residential streets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago Also, a fraction of cyclists riding non-electric bikes have a habit of moving faster than 18 mph, by the looks of it maybe even 30 mph But since I'm barely capable of passing 18 mph limit myself, and usually prefer to ride even slower, I am not quite sure how fast are they permalink fedilink source parent [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* .. and most importantly, operated as one--including all the same 'rules of the road' as other 'motorized vehicles'. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children) I get mad at this stuff. A motorcycle license is not that hard to get; just take MSF. Add turn signals and a license plate holder, and remove the vestigial pedals, and you're basically there. Just from an engineering perspective, bike parts are not meant for that kind of speed and torque. The frames can't handle it, the tires can't handle it, the chains can't handle it, and the brakes can't handle it. If you want motorcycle speeds, get motorcycle parts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) just take MSF Honestly everyone should be taking a class like MSF just to drive. They would certainly understand aggressive road behavior, peoples driving patterns, etc so much better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I briefly rode a motorcycle back in the day and I can say that taking a motorcycle safety course absolutely improved my driving. It helped me become more aware of cyclists and bikers on the road and made me more aware of how my actions impacted how the bike (or car) moved. It was incredibly helpful and I would recommend it to anyone even if you're not interested in riding a motorcycle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago When I got my motorcycle license, plenty of people in the class failed. I think I only passed because the weekend before my buddy said let's rent scooters and ride around. Got me used to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) just take MSF Honestly everyone should be taking a class like MSF just to drive. They would certainly understand aggressive road behavior, peoples driving patterns, etc so much better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I briefly rode a motorcycle back in the day and I can say that taking a motorcycle safety course absolutely improved my driving. It helped me become more aware of cyclists and bikers on the road and made me more aware of how my actions impacted how the bike (or car) moved. It was incredibly helpful and I would recommend it to anyone even if you're not interested in riding a motorcycle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I briefly rode a motorcycle back in the day and I can say that taking a motorcycle safety course absolutely improved my driving. It helped me become more aware of cyclists and bikers on the road and made me more aware of how my actions impacted how the bike (or car) moved. It was incredibly helpful and I would recommend it to anyone even if you're not interested in riding a motorcycle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Its a great course. I've taken a lot of different driving courses (friend taught them, I used to jump into his classes for fun and learning) so I've learned all kinds of defensive driving methods... And hands down MSF is my favorite. Well aside from driving large emergency vehicles safely through cities, but that one was just a fun obstacle course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago When I got my motorcycle license, plenty of people in the class failed. I think I only passed because the weekend before my buddy said let's rent scooters and ride around. Got me used to it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) An e-bike that provides petal assist up to 28 MPH is a class 3 Motorized Bicycle and requires license and registration. Also can't take it on bicycle paths. https://thecyclistchoice.com/resources/new-jersey-ebike-laws/ You can only go up to 20MPH for class 1 (petal assist only) and 2 (has a throttle) e-bikes and those you can take anywhere a regular bike can go. So if the bike is doing ~30, they're supposed to have license and registration just like any other vehicle on the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shininghero@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago Oh. Right. I forgot that varies between states. Mine allows class 3 without a license. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is fucking insane to me. 30 kilometres (18mph) is the speed limit where I live. People pass me (on a scooter going about 15-18mph) all the time but I'm pretty sure nobody goes quite as fast as 30MPH. That's crazy that's like 50km which is the legal car speed limit on most residential streets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago Also, a fraction of cyclists riding non-electric bikes have a habit of moving faster than 18 mph, by the looks of it maybe even 30 mph But since I'm barely capable of passing 18 mph limit myself, and usually prefer to ride even slower, I am not quite sure how fast are they permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shininghero@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago Oh. Right. I forgot that varies between states. Mine allows class 3 without a license. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is fucking insane to me. 30 kilometres (18mph) is the speed limit where I live. People pass me (on a scooter going about 15-18mph) all the time but I'm pretty sure nobody goes quite as fast as 30MPH. That's crazy that's like 50km which is the legal car speed limit on most residential streets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago Also, a fraction of cyclists riding non-electric bikes have a habit of moving faster than 18 mph, by the looks of it maybe even 30 mph But since I'm barely capable of passing 18 mph limit myself, and usually prefer to ride even slower, I am not quite sure how fast are they permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago Also, a fraction of cyclists riding non-electric bikes have a habit of moving faster than 18 mph, by the looks of it maybe even 30 mph But since I'm barely capable of passing 18 mph limit myself, and usually prefer to ride even slower, I am not quite sure how fast are they permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* .. and most importantly, operated as one--including all the same 'rules of the road' as other 'motorized vehicles'. permalink fedilink source parent
