▲ 890 ▼ Peak homelabbing (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by qaz@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago (5 children) Not in winter it won't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) Even in winter, it's terrible compared to a heat pump or (probably) directly burning gas or wood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not how heat works. If you're trying to heat your home, every electronic device becomes 100% efficient. All its "waste" heat becomes wanted heat. That it might only be 40W of heat is not the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Every electronic device is 100% efficient after the electricity has already been generated and delivered, sure, but a bunch of efficiency losses occurred before that. If you're comparing methane burned on-site in a furnace to methane burned at a power plant, transmitted to the site as electricity, and then used for electric resistance heating, burning on-site is gonna be better even if the furnace loses more heat up the chimney than the power plant does. Also, a heat pump is "300%-500% efficient" in the sense that it moves 3x-5x as much heat as it uses. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Heat pumps can actually be over 100% efficient if you’re measuring it based on heat produced. Because heat pumps aren’t designed to produce heat; They’re designed to move it around via refrigerant. And if you can use 1w of energy to soak up and bring in 3w of heat, you’re now 300% efficient. So by that metric, a server would be a “bad” heater. It would still contribute to your heating, but not as much as a heat pump would. It doesn’t mean the device is below 100% efficient, it just means the bar for “good” heaters is much higher than 100%. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's the joke. :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) Even in winter, it's terrible compared to a heat pump or (probably) directly burning gas or wood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not how heat works. If you're trying to heat your home, every electronic device becomes 100% efficient. All its "waste" heat becomes wanted heat. That it might only be 40W of heat is not the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Every electronic device is 100% efficient after the electricity has already been generated and delivered, sure, but a bunch of efficiency losses occurred before that. If you're comparing methane burned on-site in a furnace to methane burned at a power plant, transmitted to the site as electricity, and then used for electric resistance heating, burning on-site is gonna be better even if the furnace loses more heat up the chimney than the power plant does. Also, a heat pump is "300%-500% efficient" in the sense that it moves 3x-5x as much heat as it uses. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Heat pumps can actually be over 100% efficient if you’re measuring it based on heat produced. Because heat pumps aren’t designed to produce heat; They’re designed to move it around via refrigerant. And if you can use 1w of energy to soak up and bring in 3w of heat, you’re now 300% efficient. So by that metric, a server would be a “bad” heater. It would still contribute to your heating, but not as much as a heat pump would. It doesn’t mean the device is below 100% efficient, it just means the bar for “good” heaters is much higher than 100%. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's the joke. :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not how heat works. If you're trying to heat your home, every electronic device becomes 100% efficient. All its "waste" heat becomes wanted heat. That it might only be 40W of heat is not the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Every electronic device is 100% efficient after the electricity has already been generated and delivered, sure, but a bunch of efficiency losses occurred before that. If you're comparing methane burned on-site in a furnace to methane burned at a power plant, transmitted to the site as electricity, and then used for electric resistance heating, burning on-site is gonna be better even if the furnace loses more heat up the chimney than the power plant does. Also, a heat pump is "300%-500% efficient" in the sense that it moves 3x-5x as much heat as it uses. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Heat pumps can actually be over 100% efficient if you’re measuring it based on heat produced. Because heat pumps aren’t designed to produce heat; They’re designed to move it around via refrigerant. And if you can use 1w of energy to soak up and bring in 3w of heat, you’re now 300% efficient. So by that metric, a server would be a “bad” heater. It would still contribute to your heating, but not as much as a heat pump would. It doesn’t mean the device is below 100% efficient, it just means the bar for “good” heaters is much higher than 100%. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* Every electronic device is 100% efficient after the electricity has already been generated and delivered, sure, but a bunch of efficiency losses occurred before that. If you're comparing methane burned on-site in a furnace to methane burned at a power plant, transmitted to the site as electricity, and then used for electric resistance heating, burning on-site is gonna be better even if the furnace loses more heat up the chimney than the power plant does. Also, a heat pump is "300%-500% efficient" in the sense that it moves 3x-5x as much heat as it uses. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago Heat pumps can actually be over 100% efficient if you’re measuring it based on heat produced. Because heat pumps aren’t designed to produce heat; They’re designed to move it around via refrigerant. And if you can use 1w of energy to soak up and bring in 3w of heat, you’re now 300% efficient. So by that metric, a server would be a “bad” heater. It would still contribute to your heating, but not as much as a heat pump would. It doesn’t mean the device is below 100% efficient, it just means the bar for “good” heaters is much higher than 100%. permalink fedilink source parent