As an outsider that seems to be the gist of what's going on in the US, no one's really against the bad things (corruption, guns, intolerance, etc), they just want to win at it.

How do you even get in power to make gerrymandering illegal if this is what happens if you try "playing by the rules".

This is a state legislature, but imagine, for the national legislature, if every republican state does gerrymandering to the maximum, while every democratic state draws fair borders, what do you think happens if the democrats win 55% of the popular vote nation wide? They will get less than 40% of the seats, just like with the Wisconsin's state legislature. How the fuck do you abolish gerrymandering if you keep playing by these rules? Because you will never win a majority in government.

You have to use dirty tactics yourself, in order to even win enough seats to then pass the law that will outlaw gerrymandering.

Did you think nazis went away because we were nice to them? No, the allies shot and killed the nazis.

playing by the rules only makes sense when the other side does too… a level playing field is more important than some unspoken rules

yes, everyone agrees it should be impossible to gerrymander… but given that it’s not, for an election to be anywhere near “fair” (and to be clear it can’t when you’re gerrymandering) then both sides must do it otherwise it’s the most unfair thing possible

(disclaimer: aussie; this ain’t my country, and our electoral system doesn’t allow this.. but for absolute fucks sake yall your vote effects the entire world and we get no say at all, so all we can do is talk some sense into this UNIQUELY crazy bullshit)