▲ 752 ▼ RIP Mr Hogan (discuss.online) submitted 1 year ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 70 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://xcancel.com/notcapnamerica/status/1948408184185528732#m
[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (9 children) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 123 points 1 year ago (6 children) He ratted out Jesse Ventura to McMahon when Jesse was trying to get his wrestling colleagues to join a union. Source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 26 points 1 year ago* (5 children) ventura dint do any favors either, basically he said f you guys your on your own if you dint unionize with me, he only said it because had a backup plan, a union with sag-aftra, so it basically abandoned them, dint care about thier potential fall out. the wrestlers dint have much power it at the time, if the other wrestlers were also actors, they wouldve unionize, most of them were scared to do so. he also has a history with PETER THIEL too, because thiel bankrolled hogans lawsuit against Gawker, as part of a vendetta for reporting on his business pratices, plus him being gay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tischbier@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Losing Gawker was a big turning point for the public not having a consistent satirical biting rag news site. Looking back, losing gawker probably contributed to the enshitification of Reddit too with the influx of Gawker commenters. We may never have been able to avoid the current reality but if Gawker was around still it would have certainly been different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws) permalink fedilink source parent [–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago plus him being gay. that's no excuse /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) I forgot who was trying to organize the union (Ventura??), but Hogan found out and ran to Vince McMahon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I know next to nothing about this topic but heard in an interview with Ventura, that Hogan was the only one of that league (or how they call it) who had already signed a fat contract with a higher league and that the unionization would have put that into risk of not proceeding. Edit: Found the interview. It was a bit different than I remembered but not much. https://youtu.be/nt5mRyIyOzU?t=2947 (at 49:07) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 123 points 1 year ago (6 children) He ratted out Jesse Ventura to McMahon when Jesse was trying to get his wrestling colleagues to join a union. Source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 26 points 1 year ago* (5 children) ventura dint do any favors either, basically he said f you guys your on your own if you dint unionize with me, he only said it because had a backup plan, a union with sag-aftra, so it basically abandoned them, dint care about thier potential fall out. the wrestlers dint have much power it at the time, if the other wrestlers were also actors, they wouldve unionize, most of them were scared to do so. he also has a history with PETER THIEL too, because thiel bankrolled hogans lawsuit against Gawker, as part of a vendetta for reporting on his business pratices, plus him being gay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tischbier@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Losing Gawker was a big turning point for the public not having a consistent satirical biting rag news site. Looking back, losing gawker probably contributed to the enshitification of Reddit too with the influx of Gawker commenters. We may never have been able to avoid the current reality but if Gawker was around still it would have certainly been different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws) permalink fedilink source parent [–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago plus him being gay. that's no excuse /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 26 points 1 year ago* (5 children) ventura dint do any favors either, basically he said f you guys your on your own if you dint unionize with me, he only said it because had a backup plan, a union with sag-aftra, so it basically abandoned them, dint care about thier potential fall out. the wrestlers dint have much power it at the time, if the other wrestlers were also actors, they wouldve unionize, most of them were scared to do so. he also has a history with PETER THIEL too, because thiel bankrolled hogans lawsuit against Gawker, as part of a vendetta for reporting on his business pratices, plus him being gay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] tischbier@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Losing Gawker was a big turning point for the public not having a consistent satirical biting rag news site. Looking back, losing gawker probably contributed to the enshitification of Reddit too with the influx of Gawker commenters. We may never have been able to avoid the current reality but if Gawker was around still it would have certainly been different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws) permalink fedilink source parent [–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago plus him being gay. that's no excuse /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tischbier@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Losing Gawker was a big turning point for the public not having a consistent satirical biting rag news site. Looking back, losing gawker probably contributed to the enshitification of Reddit too with the influx of Gawker commenters. We may never have been able to avoid the current reality but if Gawker was around still it would have certainly been different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago thiel backing the lawsuit, just made a Conservative activism in the courts, which paved the way from right wing groups backed by russia and funded to introduce legislation or lawsuits against (non-religious laws) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah, after Ventura tried to get them to unionize and Hogan messed it all up, Ventura bailed. He was already unionized as an actor before approaching them, but saw the obvious benefits of a union and wanted them to have the same. If he was really their friend, he would’ve fought harder for them to have what he had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago oh yea, i place some of the blame on ventura too, hes the one who started it, he shouldve finished it instead he just ditched them, he was only able to speak from him position, because already was an actor with sag aftra. he shoulve known a lowly wrestler isnt going to have many negotiating positions in a union formation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago plus him being gay. that's no excuse /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) I forgot who was trying to organize the union (Ventura??), but Hogan found out and ran to Vince McMahon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I know next to nothing about this topic but heard in an interview with Ventura, that Hogan was the only one of that league (or how they call it) who had already signed a fat contract with a higher league and that the unionization would have put that into risk of not proceeding. Edit: Found the interview. It was a bit different than I remembered but not much. https://youtu.be/nt5mRyIyOzU?t=2947 (at 49:07) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I know next to nothing about this topic but heard in an interview with Ventura, that Hogan was the only one of that league (or how they call it) who had already signed a fat contract with a higher league and that the unionization would have put that into risk of not proceeding. Edit: Found the interview. It was a bit different than I remembered but not much. https://youtu.be/nt5mRyIyOzU?t=2947 (at 49:07) permalink fedilink source parent