▲ 174 ▼ Do you think GOG might be the next? (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 year ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to c/gog@lemmy.world 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Someone update me. /r/OutOfTheLoop permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (1 child) visa and MasterCard are forcing steam and other companies to either remove games THEY don't agree with or be dropped by Mc/visa. it's just corporate censorship at its finest. credit card companies can essentially tell steam what they are or are not allowed to sell for some weird as fuck reason. https://www.engadget.com/gaming/steam-now-bans-games-that-violate-the-rules-and-standards-of-payment-processors-and-banks-164222173.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children) That's such an unnecessary gotcha response lol. Obviously they are reliant on those payment processors for their revenue, which is the very reason they are complying. The point is that those two payment processors essentially run credit card payments in the west, and use that dominance to force their values on their clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* to force their values on their clients. It's for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else. But I don't think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago not credit card, debit permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Another great example of why their monopoly racket should be destroyed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago If only there exists a technology permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Collective Shout, an Australian organization lobbies the payment processors to ban adult content from the internet, The payment processors acquiescence to Collective Shout. Collective Shout is a self-described feminist non-partisan organization, but has alleged ties with anti-trans and conservative organizations. The group has developed a reputation as a sort of puritan crusade that targets everything from Detroit: Become Human to Tyler, the Creator. https://www.gameshub.com/news/article/australian-anti-porn-group-collective-shout-escalates-its-war-for-video-game-censorship-2736180 Although itch.io has an adult content filter that can be toggled in a user’s settings, indicating whether they want explicit content to be visible in search results and on the store page, the sudden deindexing of NSFW comics, zines, books, games, and other published products on the website means that unless users type in direct links to explicit products, they cannot access them. As is often the case when explicit content is removed en masse, LGBTQIA+, furry, and other content that is considered “obscene” by conservative groups has also been delisted or removed, as reported by The Transfeminine Review. This is especially dangerous in a time when politicians and others in power (i.e. influential billionaires) are actively dehumanizing and disappearing trans people, immigrants, and anyone who steps out of line with the current regime. https://www.comicsbeat.com/itch-io-delists-removes-explicit-comics-zines-games-more-under-pressure-from-payment-processors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I read somewhere that Collective Shout swayed the processors with around 1000 comments. And that because payment processors generally get so few comments that they felt like that was enough to make the policy change. Those of us who do care should probably figure out how to comment and push back. Might not be enough to save what was lost, but we shouldn't let them get away with such an easy win. Edit: found a thread on bluesky where this is already being organized. Also a link to a change.org petition. Obviously the phone numbers and contact forms linked in the Bluesky thread are probably the better route if you have the time, but anything is better than nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Credit card companies pressured Steam to remove some content that has incest/rape in it, specifically stuff that is easily searched because there is still content with it available on Steam. Recently credit card companies pressured Itch to remove all NSFW. The only common thread is that video game selling platforms are bending over to make it so you cant buy stuff where you see stuff that bends over probably because of religion n oppressed small penis syndrome or something. I don't know wtf that first one is so im assuming something similar but I dont really care any more because Ive got a pirate hat and a provider of my high seas who doesnt give a shit either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago i mean i'm not sure what you imagine the alternative is for the platforms, fuckin' bitcoin? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (1 child) visa and MasterCard are forcing steam and other companies to either remove games THEY don't agree with or be dropped by Mc/visa. it's just corporate censorship at its finest. credit card companies can essentially tell steam what they are or are not allowed to sell for some weird as fuck reason. https://www.engadget.com/gaming/steam-now-bans-games-that-violate-the-rules-and-standards-of-payment-processors-and-banks-164222173.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children) That's such an unnecessary gotcha response lol. Obviously they are reliant on those payment processors for their revenue, which is the very reason they are complying. The point is that those two payment processors essentially run credit card payments in the west, and use that dominance to force their values on their clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* to force their values on their clients. It's for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else. But I don't think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago not credit card, debit permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Another great example of why their monopoly racket should be destroyed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago If only there exists a technology permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children) That's such an unnecessary gotcha response lol. Obviously they are reliant on those payment processors for their revenue, which is the very reason they are complying. The point is that those two payment processors essentially run credit card payments in the west, and use that dominance to force their values on their clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* to force their values on their clients. It's for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else. But I don't think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago not credit card, debit permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Another great example of why their monopoly racket should be destroyed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago If only there exists a technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (2 children) That's such an unnecessary gotcha response lol. Obviously they are reliant on those payment processors for their revenue, which is the very reason they are complying. The point is that those two payment processors essentially run credit card payments in the west, and use that dominance to force their values on their clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* to force their values on their clients. It's for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else. But I don't think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago not credit card, debit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* to force their values on their clients. It's for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else. But I don't think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago not credit card, debit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Another great example of why their monopoly racket should be destroyed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago If only there exists a technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago If only there exists a technology permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Collective Shout, an Australian organization lobbies the payment processors to ban adult content from the internet, The payment processors acquiescence to Collective Shout. Collective Shout is a self-described feminist non-partisan organization, but has alleged ties with anti-trans and conservative organizations. The group has developed a reputation as a sort of puritan crusade that targets everything from Detroit: Become Human to Tyler, the Creator. https://www.gameshub.com/news/article/australian-anti-porn-group-collective-shout-escalates-its-war-for-video-game-censorship-2736180 Although itch.io has an adult content filter that can be toggled in a user’s settings, indicating whether they want explicit content to be visible in search results and on the store page, the sudden deindexing of NSFW comics, zines, books, games, and other published products on the website means that unless users type in direct links to explicit products, they cannot access them. As is often the case when explicit content is removed en masse, LGBTQIA+, furry, and other content that is considered “obscene” by conservative groups has also been delisted or removed, as reported by The Transfeminine Review. This is especially dangerous in a time when politicians and others in power (i.e. influential billionaires) are actively dehumanizing and disappearing trans people, immigrants, and anyone who steps out of line with the current regime. https://www.comicsbeat.com/itch-io-delists-removes-explicit-comics-zines-games-more-under-pressure-from-payment-processors permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I read somewhere that Collective Shout swayed the processors with around 1000 comments. And that because payment processors generally get so few comments that they felt like that was enough to make the policy change. Those of us who do care should probably figure out how to comment and push back. Might not be enough to save what was lost, but we shouldn't let them get away with such an easy win. Edit: found a thread on bluesky where this is already being organized. Also a link to a change.org petition. Obviously the phone numbers and contact forms linked in the Bluesky thread are probably the better route if you have the time, but anything is better than nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I read somewhere that Collective Shout swayed the processors with around 1000 comments. And that because payment processors generally get so few comments that they felt like that was enough to make the policy change. Those of us who do care should probably figure out how to comment and push back. Might not be enough to save what was lost, but we shouldn't let them get away with such an easy win. Edit: found a thread on bluesky where this is already being organized. Also a link to a change.org petition. Obviously the phone numbers and contact forms linked in the Bluesky thread are probably the better route if you have the time, but anything is better than nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Credit card companies pressured Steam to remove some content that has incest/rape in it, specifically stuff that is easily searched because there is still content with it available on Steam. Recently credit card companies pressured Itch to remove all NSFW. The only common thread is that video game selling platforms are bending over to make it so you cant buy stuff where you see stuff that bends over probably because of religion n oppressed small penis syndrome or something. I don't know wtf that first one is so im assuming something similar but I dont really care any more because Ive got a pirate hat and a provider of my high seas who doesnt give a shit either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago i mean i'm not sure what you imagine the alternative is for the platforms, fuckin' bitcoin? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago i mean i'm not sure what you imagine the alternative is for the platforms, fuckin' bitcoin? permalink fedilink source parent