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[–] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would say it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman. Is this really a spicy take? And for context I do not think it’s gay to be into a muscular woman…

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I might be able to help clear this up for you. Whether or not the take is spicy depends on how transphobic or ignorant the parties involved are, so I'll start by addressing the facts.

    • If you are a woman, then it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman.

    • If you are a man, then it is not gay to be attracted to a trans woman.

    • Regardless of whether you or anyone else is a man, woman, gay, or otherwise, and of whatever physical bits are involved, you are not obligated to be attracted to anyone in particular.

    • If you are a straight man, and you do not visually perceive the trans woman as appearing consistent with your idea of what a woman should look like, then you are unlikely to be attracted to her.

    • If you are a straight man who is attracted to a trans woman and feel uncomfortable with or threatened by it, then you are transphobic. This doesn't necessarily mean you hate trans people, it can just mean that you fear being associated with them or having to think about them.

    On spiciness:

    • If you are addressing people who are ignorant of all this, they will not know enough to consider your take spicy.
    • Your statement is too vague to determine whether your intent is transphobic or not. If the context of your take is that you do not consider trans women to be women, then your take will be spicy to people who are not transphobic, but it will not be spicy to people who are transphobic (or ignorant, as mentioned previously).
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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ya, being with a trans man would be a lot less gay than a trans woman. Confusing, and probably worthy of the label queer but certainly not nearly as gay as actually sucking dick.

    I agree being in a relationship with either of them would be confusing but the simple fact is I don’t like dick... I also don’t like pussy with a beard and chest hair, but I’m not in a place where I have to pick.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Trans women are women. A man being attracted to a woman is...not gay. They only thing that's gay is being attracted to men.

    Not muscular women, not short-haired women, not trans women. Men. M.E.N.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trans women have dicks. Enjoying dick is a strong indicator you’re gay.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Gay men aren't attracted to trans women. Straight men are.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    You’re just out here throwing around generalizations about genders and people’s sexual identities, you should know better. These generalization's and stereotypes are the same feminist women have worked so hard to shirk off.

    Your neo stereotype “that sucking dick ain’t gay if she identifies as a woman” is truly something to behold and reveals that you don’t really think about what you’re saying so much as repeat talking points from your ideology.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure I'd even call this binary thinking. It's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how the world works.

    If some straight guy gets a boner from looking at a trans woman and thinks that he's now gay or bi or something, he should go have sex with a man. I think he'll be able to figure out the difference very quickly.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So you disagree that I’m not allowed to be attracted to chicks with dicks? Are you that far gone? Imagine the brainrot required to tag in chatgpt into your discussion and quote it like some ancient philosopher. I bet you thought that was checkmate for me and this discussion?

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ya kid I’m sorry but you don’t get to take the high road after using a chatgpt quote to take a cheap shot ad hominem during a discussion.

    Your continual implications that I must be a repressed homosexual if I’m not into sucking every last drop of semen from a trans woman’s nut sac because she identifies as a woman and I’m an ally is …. wait for it… binary thinking.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • I don't think it's gay or straight. Some bi people are exclusively interested in cis partner. Some bi people are pan. Some trans people are exclusively interested in other trans people. Someone maybe desires cis people and trans men. I think it's a failure of vocabulary, combined with a great deal of emotional charge and taboo.

    Agreed.

    Now consider my partner, who is non-binary. Traditional labels of sexuality risks misgendering when applied to non-binary people. I find the terms "androphile" and "gynophile" to be pretty useful, since they don't encode the gender of the person having the attraction, but even those are pretty limited.

    Sure. There’s a double edged sword to creating new words or terms or reaching further into jargon to communicate your identity. By going this route you end up only being able to communicate to others who understand your jargon, and conversely to your goals communicate less effectively to the average person.

    However, there are fundamentally two kinds of sexuality: queer and repressed.

    What does this mean?

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