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Solar Punk is just another version of the Nordic model (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you on the principle but what kind of population numbers did those indigenous tribes have? We've got 8,2 billion people on this thing now.

Picking up the criticism about solarpunk here; if your future only works after most people are dead for some reason or another it's not exactly utopian or even good.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This is a lack of rigorous thinking, from someone I presume is capable of debunking the Black Book of Communism.

    For the vast majority of middle-income, upper-middle-income, and high-income countries, the total fertility rate is below the replacement level, and even below 1.6 in the imperial core. After a century of this, we're back to a world population of 2 billion people, a figure that no one would argue is inherently overpopulated. Even if the TFR harmonically regresses to 2.05, we would be fine. Communism could "kill" 5 billion more people and be the most peaceful world-system in modern history.

    Those indigenous peoples had 100 million people just in North America, which is proportional to about 600 million people globally.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Those indigenous peoples had 100 million people just in North America, which is proportional to about 600 million people globally.

    great, that only leaves about 7,9 billion others to account for then

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    are you positioning the solar punk five years from now or 105 years from now? we (well, some of our progeny) could return to 1920s population numbers over a long period of time by individual reproductive choices without any mass killing or government policy. there's only a missing population if you think the art is depicting next week.

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