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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 20 points 3 years ago (4 children) But it’s the job of the citizenry to stand up to this stuff, not the state. So what's the state for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago So what's the state for? Serving the interests of the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago That’s a good question ;) permalink fedilink source parent [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nah. Our state should do more and better things than that. I like having a space program, for example. And education for all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent [–] wagoner@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago Also make laws permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The function of a properly constituted government is to prevent other worse governments from forming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago This doesn't define what a properly constituted government is though. Any government can prevent other worse governments from forming, all they need to do is massacre their citizens and there will be nobody left to form a government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 years ago So what's the state for? Serving the interests of the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 4 points 3 years ago That’s a good question ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nah. Our state should do more and better things than that. I like having a space program, for example. And education for all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent [–] wagoner@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago Also make laws permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nah. Our state should do more and better things than that. I like having a space program, for example. And education for all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything. You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gowan@reddthat.com 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government. Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low. It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No, you are not understanding that hat something has to do in order to qualify as a government. is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person. And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] liv@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago Bye, have a nice weekend! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The function of a properly constituted government is to prevent other worse governments from forming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago This doesn't define what a properly constituted government is though. Any government can prevent other worse governments from forming, all they need to do is massacre their citizens and there will be nobody left to form a government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago This doesn't define what a properly constituted government is though. Any government can prevent other worse governments from forming, all they need to do is massacre their citizens and there will be nobody left to form a government. permalink fedilink source parent