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May be phrasing it wrong, but I look at actions like Labor rights, Pride, Civil Rights, Black Panthers, etc. where actions of protesters felt much intense and made more of an impact in actually changing things vs now where there are protests but it feels like it constantly falls of deaf ears.

Have we just not hit that breaking point yet? Have we collectively been beat down so hard? Or have we forgotten how to truly fight for rights? Or… am I just completely off the mark and missing something else?

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

But should it be extreme? I reckon it should be effective instead. Whether effective means awareness, resignations or something else is a conversation that varies a lot from context to context.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, better not disturbe anyone when you are doing your awareness "protests"...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Those do work better. Antagonising the people whose support you rely on to effect change is a horrible strategy, the more of a disturbance protests cause to the average person, the less likely said average person is to be supportive.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Only this strategy has literally never worked. Your rights were secured by people who caused all kinds of disturbances. And in the first place anyone who still hasn't taken a side is a fascist in denial or will never take a side.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I was mad that the government was disappearing people, but then a protest made it so I couldn't drive where I wanted to.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

That's a vast oversimplification of the thought process and emotions that's going on there and an extremely uncharitable one at that (most people have their own lives to worry about, it's usually less "I can't drive where I want to" and more "I have to get to work"), but essentially yes. That's the reality you have to work with.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Of course, but the metric you choose for "effectiveness" is critical. In the current situation the metric must be "removal from office".

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