They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor's appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it's "gaslighting" and then said their family doctor wouldn't get the vaccine.

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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

"That is a fucking idiotic idea."

Attacks the idea, not the person. Probably will be the same result, because they probably were a fucking idiot to believe that stuff, and they are very attached to stupid ideas.

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