They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor's appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it's "gaslighting" and then said their family doctor wouldn't get the vaccine.

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[–] 7 points 1 year ago

in 2025? Vaccines have been available for how many years now? Why does anyone even think about COVID vaccines anymore in this year? We would have figured out any adverse effects by now if there were any.

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