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[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

"What is the purpose of this meeting and why do I need to be included" is a perfectly polite series of words to use. The wording matters far less than the tone of voice.

I vastly prefer clear and direct questions over the reply that sounds passive aggressive from the very beginning.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

I wouldn’t say “perfectly” polite, but it’s definitely not offensive.

The response in the OP definitely doesn’t need further tonal clarification, though. It’s tough for anyone to classify that response as hostile.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

I think you underestimate how thin the skin of the professional managerial class is. It's not about the tone of voice it's about the directness and how that's facilitating "conflict".

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I do understand and it does not matter how you phrase it for those types of people. Pretending that it could have been said the 'right' way is a waste of time because, as you said, they consider even asking to be facilitating conflict.

There are also good managers out there, they just aren't as memorable as the ones who make everything into drama. The good ones also tend to be driven to other jobs because of the jerk managers...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Don't find that's true at all. Direct language is much preferred to this bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

"why do I need to be included" sounds a bit harsh and could be met with "because I said so". instead maybe try something along the lines of "how will this meeting benefit my work?" or "how might I contribute?"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

"Please see the agenda for our topics."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yep, clear & direct is kindness.

I like to insist on basic standards: "Please provide an agenda that explains why we're needed. Otherwise, I'll have to turn down this meeting. Thanks." and reply all. Often, others will agree the lack of written preparation is a problem & follow suit.

If the agenda is simple & clear enough, I'll just answer in writing so we can cancel the meeting.

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