▲ 1518 ▼ The IRS Tax Filing Software TurboTax Is Trying to Kill Just Got Open Sourced (www.404media.co) submitted 1 year ago by DesertDwellingWeirdo@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 147 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago (3 children) Repo: https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Hurry up and clone that ASAP, this is gonna get taken down once DOGE realizes what it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (2 children) More likely they'll just turn off or unpublish the API that it depends on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Is that even available right now? Usually for this type of thing you need API keys, which are not included, nor available at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Recreating the API seems doable? If we can recreate dead MMO servers… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you comparing online game servers to the American tax system? Because I really want a ban. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Well, you probably could. Issue is that you can't self host the IRS. If they aren't running the service that accepts the data there isn't much you can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent [–] scott@lemmy.org 2 points 1 year ago That was my thought too and I did so but it's been up for over a week now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I wonder if this could be altered to work for other countries permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) We've already got free software for filing taxes, kthxbye! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Oh that's good to know what's it's called permalink fedilink source parent [–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It would be nice but I think it is not really possible. Too many difference in the laws I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, tax software is hyper-tailored to the tax law, which is why it needs to get an update every year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago I can see the EU funding it. This could be a measure to allow Blue States circumvent the federal system - a CaliTAX, AlohaTAX, ect. This would be vital during a civil war scenario, so that the Blue States can having working taxation systems without having to redo everything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Comment from the first PR: because this is the first pull request and something many people will see, I would like to say that I learned from a former project manager at the IRS that development on Direct File has stopped since January. the source code is only public because of federal law. it's not likely that this is going to be merged but it's possible that the components of Direct File might be used elsewhere Don't get your hopes up too much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Hurry up and clone that ASAP, this is gonna get taken down once DOGE realizes what it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (2 children) More likely they'll just turn off or unpublish the API that it depends on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Is that even available right now? Usually for this type of thing you need API keys, which are not included, nor available at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Recreating the API seems doable? If we can recreate dead MMO servers… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you comparing online game servers to the American tax system? Because I really want a ban. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Well, you probably could. Issue is that you can't self host the IRS. If they aren't running the service that accepts the data there isn't much you can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent [–] scott@lemmy.org 2 points 1 year ago That was my thought too and I did so but it's been up for over a week now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (2 children) More likely they'll just turn off or unpublish the API that it depends on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Is that even available right now? Usually for this type of thing you need API keys, which are not included, nor available at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Recreating the API seems doable? If we can recreate dead MMO servers… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you comparing online game servers to the American tax system? Because I really want a ban. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Well, you probably could. Issue is that you can't self host the IRS. If they aren't running the service that accepts the data there isn't much you can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Is that even available right now? Usually for this type of thing you need API keys, which are not included, nor available at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Probably. It would need to be updated with new laws and rules though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) Recreating the API seems doable? If we can recreate dead MMO servers… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you comparing online game servers to the American tax system? Because I really want a ban. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Well, you probably could. Issue is that you can't self host the IRS. If they aren't running the service that accepts the data there isn't much you can do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you comparing online game servers to the American tax system? Because I really want a ban. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago What really pisses me off is that their anti-cheat forces me to use dogeOS permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Well, you probably could. Issue is that you can't self host the IRS. If they aren't running the service that accepts the data there isn't much you can do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr 3 points 1 year ago Direct File interprets the United States' Internal Revenue Code (26 USC) as plain language questions, the answers to which should be known to taxpayers without need of external instructions or publications. Taxpayers' answers are then translated into standard tax forms and transmitted to the IRS's Modernized e-File (MeF) API, which is available for authorized public use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scott@lemmy.org 2 points 1 year ago That was my thought too and I did so but it's been up for over a week now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children) I wonder if this could be altered to work for other countries permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) We've already got free software for filing taxes, kthxbye! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Oh that's good to know what's it's called permalink fedilink source parent [–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It would be nice but I think it is not really possible. Too many difference in the laws I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, tax software is hyper-tailored to the tax law, which is why it needs to get an update every year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago I can see the EU funding it. This could be a measure to allow Blue States circumvent the federal system - a CaliTAX, AlohaTAX, ect. This would be vital during a civil war scenario, so that the Blue States can having working taxation systems without having to redo everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) We've already got free software for filing taxes, kthxbye! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Oh that's good to know what's it's called permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago Oh that's good to know what's it's called permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It would be nice but I think it is not really possible. Too many difference in the laws I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, tax software is hyper-tailored to the tax law, which is why it needs to get an update every year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, tax software is hyper-tailored to the tax law, which is why it needs to get an update every year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago I can see the EU funding it. This could be a measure to allow Blue States circumvent the federal system - a CaliTAX, AlohaTAX, ect. This would be vital during a civil war scenario, so that the Blue States can having working taxation systems without having to redo everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Comment from the first PR: because this is the first pull request and something many people will see, I would like to say that I learned from a former project manager at the IRS that development on Direct File has stopped since January. the source code is only public because of federal law. it's not likely that this is going to be merged but it's possible that the components of Direct File might be used elsewhere Don't get your hopes up too much. permalink fedilink source parent