It's literally the most natural thing in the world to equate reproductive effectiveness to worth. All life is "worth" their reproductive effectiveness. So not having sex is very relevant to our entire existence as a species.
As such, our mental faculties put a heavy punishment in the form of mental pain, i.e. "self-worth attached to getting laid", on this whole thing.
This has very little to do with societal expectations. It's simple biology. Not getting laid is supposed to be one of the worst things for an organism.
You're rationally right with what you say, but it's simply not very relevant. Rationality does not help with our most deeply rooted biological desires. The only thing that helps is getting them fulfilled, i.e. having sex."
From the Blackpill incel thread
I can't tell I'm just too ace to comprehend this. Is this a thing? Do women feel this? I argued it's more of a "societal expectation" thing and was countered with.. this.
Not saying this user is wrong, I just am having a difficult time understanding this.
"Our most deeply rooted biological desires" has me squinting real hard. Do women feel this way, too? Idk I'm absolutely confused af
EDIT: Please do NOT brigade the blackpill thread. No touch. Seriously.
Realization achieved: it's not an incel discussion thread: it's now an incel defense thread. What a fuckin' waste ffs..
If i can give you one piece of advice? Don't listen to incels. The very notion of being an incel is incredibly toxic and misogynistic. It didn't used to be, the woman who started the (trend? Movement?) definitely did not mean for it to end up as a rallying cry for angry men to use as an excuse to blame everyone (women) for their own issues. Incels have killed people over not getting the attention they want. They should all be on a watch list IMO.
Totally agree. I've read a load of academic research on incels and frighteningly, most of it is their mindset not their MH. They're heavily linked to transphobia, racism, ableism, homophonic and general hatred. They're also heavily linked to violence.
Incel is a terrorist ideology IMO
Oh, I don't! I just thought I was missing something here.
It legit just hit me now that you said it: that thread wasn't for discussing incels— it was for incels.
My misogynistic upbringing often makes me second-guess myself, and I just wanted to make sure I was a bit more grounded. I feel a bit better now.
God, this makes me 5000% happier to have a women's community in a male-dominated space. Thank you. 🫂