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[+] -75 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Nah. She just doesn't really have anything to say. "Carbon bad" isn't really a message in 2025.

She's an activist in that she gets arrested a lot but there's plenty of people really achieving things that don't have the social media clout she does.

She also doesn't have any special credibility. Why would you interview a serial protester when you could interview an expert.

As an aside I've learned that any thing less than breathless support for her on lemmy will earn a deluge of downvotes. So have at me dweebs - express your support for this tapped out child star with your spiciest downvote.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Whining about downvotes? That's a downvote.

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  • [+] -30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Hah. Not whining at all. Just acknowledging that my opinion on this is not a popular one, while antagonising the 14 year olds who admire her.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm 45 and I'm inclined to agree with most of what she says.

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  • [+] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    News about her generally irritates conservatives who go out of their way to criticize and mock her. So I while I am generally aware of her and admire her commitment to the environment, her ability to get press that annoys the conservative ultra capitalists who hate windmills and solar fields gives me joy. She just triggers them while never thinking about them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    She is just trying to raise awareness (and it made some progress), despite all the wrong things you think about her, true or not, the effect is net positive to the planet. Do you hate living on a planet with fewer disasters that much? Do you hate people who try to make the world a better place? Please help me see this from your point of view.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    She is just trying to raise awareness (and it made some progress)

    You don't have any evidence of that though do you. Everyone's aware of climate change.

    despite all the wrong things you think about her, true or not

    This is kind of my point about Lemmy users. I haven't said anything bad about her, but my comment was not vapid loyalty so here we are.

    Do you hate living on a planet with fewer disasters that much?

    This is a really silly question.

    Do you hate people who try to make the world a better place?

    I don't hate people who try, but I get very frustrated by people who want to celebrate ineffective trying.

    There are people who are actually making progress on mitigating the impacts of climate change. Greta is not one of them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You don't have any evidence of that though do you

    A lot of kids who follow her probably changed to a more sustainable, more environment friendly lifestyle. And I see a lot more young people veering towards sustainable projects.

    But I guess that won't make a nice and easy graph for you. Does it?

    I don't particularly like her, but I have a problem with people downplaying and demeaning activism. It's so rampant on reddit in any kind of protest post that doesn't blow up to front page, you would almost feel they're being targeted to lessen their reach. Just deflecting, derailing, demeaning any chance they get. The astroturfing is insane.

    As long as they're not making off money for themselves, hiding nefarious intent behind a cause, then getting sponsored and bought, let them do their activism for good.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's not that your intuition doesn't make a graph, it's that I have a strong suspicion that Gretas efforts at "raising awareness" are counter productive.

    She's precisely the wrong type of person to influence the kind of people who need to change their behaviour. She's great at preaching to the choir, but that's not going to save us.

    Activism for the sake of activism is counter productive, because it makes people feel like they've done something to address the problem.

    Excuse me while I go update my Facebook profile photo with whatever banner makes me look clever this week.

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