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DNC Moves to Oust David Hogg After He Says Party Isn’t Standing Up to Trump (truthout.org)
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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I already vote like you want.

Then you're not the type of person I'm referring to, who doesn't vote because Democrats aren't progressive enough, thereby allowing fascists into power and contributing to things becoming even worse. Complaining that Democrats suck is fine, because they do. Making things worse by allowing the greater evil to get into power is not.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Then you’re not the type of person I’m referring to, who doesn’t vote because Democrats aren’t progressive enough, thereby allowing fascists into power and contributing to things becoming even worse.

    democrats decided Progressives weren't worth listening to. Too insignificant. Now they want to blame Progressives for their loss. You can't have it both ways. Progressives can't simultaneously be too insignificant to listen to and still be a credible scapegoat for the results of running on genocide and cheney.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Democrats not representing so many of us leads to people becoming disillusioned and not voting. Having to choose a lesser evil instead of an actual good sucks. So Democrats are to blame for not representing their constituents, and voters are to blame for not voting for the least bad result out of practicality. The thing is, letting perfect be the enemy of less bad leads to more suffering. Just ask trans people how much they appreciate progressives who didn't vote for Harris.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Democrats not representing so many of us leads to people becoming disillusioned and not voting. Having to choose a lesser evil instead of an actual good sucks. So Democrats are to blame for not representing their constituents, and voters are to blame for not voting for the least bad result out of practicality.

    Thing is, the party did this for three elections running. People don't like being railroaded, particularly with the contempt and condescension that centrists can't help but express.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yep, they've been the lesser evil for a long time now. The effort should be in working towards making them less evil, not giving up and letting the greater evil which has no chance of ever becoming less evil take over. A bit late now, of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The effort should be in working towards making them less evil,

    How many more decades of effort do you suppose it will take to slow them getting worse, let alone get them to the point where being less evil is something that they might consider?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know, but I know that fascists being in power should be completely unacceptable.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yes, it should.

    In either party.

    If they lie and say they want to do something that benefits us mere noncorporations, oh that has to be accomplished over the course of forever while we make incremental change. Look, we'll run on a tiny improvement then abandon it immediately upon election.

    But if they want to block a progressive from office or sell weapons for genocide, that can be done immediately.

    The party takes advantage of good people having no choice. No one likes being taken advantage of. It was never gonna work forever, and democrats fucked up. They're never gonna stop taking advantage, though. Incremental progress is a disgusting filthy lie from the quisling party. They move quick when they want to. They move quick when there's Palestinian children to murder.

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