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[email protected] has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

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Lemmy.world has released an official response.

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[–] [email protected] 202 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They're down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn't fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It's also one of the most recommended Lemmy's with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I'm reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they're defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won't defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I'm not aware of any that will do the latter. I don't understand why, it can't be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It'll certainly come to many clients

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe Memmy has a filter for communities and instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

it does, but its broken. the list resets every time you close the app. At least on the full release current build

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, I agree. Yet another reason I just spun up my own instance and use that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm curious as to what you'd need(other than a server) to spin oneupp

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some time and tinkering.

It's quite straightforward (especially if you don't use nginx or need email) to use the docker install.

So you need a Linux box (IDK about windows) a fix IP with a port routed to your machine and some free time. Oh yeah a domain name pointing to said IP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's good to know, thanks! Would love to try that some day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely achievable and I'd encourage anyone to play around with self hosting.

The main thing to acknowledge before getting started is that it's an ongoing commitment, like a puppy. Getting it to work initially is the easy part, you can follow a guide and have something working in a few hours of effort. Running in to problems later on is the tricky part, automated backups and upgrades et cetera, something needs a re-start, things just stop working for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, I can imagine it's not a one and done thing, you'd have to do a lot of support with your server, can see it being a massive time sink

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's not so much the amount of time, but the unpredictable schedule.

Something suits itself and you have to fix it to get your stuff working.

Tolerable if it's only you, awful if you have other users.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Yep. I started there, found it down all the time and then moved on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did it the moment they decided not to defederate from Meta. I don't like admins who can't take decisive actions to protect their users (and apparently seem to bend their knees to any big corpo out there)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That sounds like a contradictory stance

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm fairly new, what are the tools?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I also used LASIM but I remember someone else mentioning another tool that could do multiple accts at once. check out this list for it and more tools.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

step 1 - go to reddit

step 2 - ?

step 3 - profit

unfortunately i don't know the specific answer, but you might find something interesting here:

or here:

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I would like to move to a different fediverse please.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is what I did.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I started on lemmy.world because it was the most popular server at the time and I didn't really understand how the fediverse worked. I spent the first month sort of just learning to stop trying to think like I was on reddit. The federation feels to me like pirate TV/ ham radio, people broadcasting their visions and worldviews while rebroadcasting other stations/nodes. Each instance, has it's own "feel". I see the entire instance I'm on as a greater solarpunk community, which is filled with smaller, related communities of people all sharing their own interests.

This is a memory of how the Internet was first envisioned by many people, before the corporate takeover. I am interested in FOSS, I am interested in "piracy", I am interested in any exchange of knowledge that helps us work together, spread skills, and empower communities, both virtual and on the ground.

But all that aside, lemmy.world is just too unreliable for it to be my entrypoint into the fediverse. Which is why I looked around and found a place that feels more in line with my own sense of hopefulness for the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.

They stand behind the lie that "if we didn't let people in, they wouldn't know where to go"... as if it's so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.

I'll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they're actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it's a collection of smaller instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Let the garbage go there

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

@tron @Madbrad200 >Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views.

welcome to the fedi, first day here? :guraKekw: