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lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)
It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.
lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.
Almost like LW admins don't want to end up in jail.
Nobody wants to end up in jail, but that's not a reason to become reddit.
Good job this is Lemmy then and each instance can set their own rules.
Says the guy who is at 0 risk of going to jail for it lol.
By all means create your own instance with a rules-free piracy community, then when you start getting into legal trouble, you can bit the bullet and go to jail lol
Every instance has their own rules and where your server is located can factor into those rules. Being a EU server and not a Russian server likely plays a role in that.
I moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.world after that whole hack thing a few weeks ago and it seems like lemmy.world has been going through some weird shit ever sense.
We knew it was you!
Yeaβ¦ itβs time to boogie off this instance for a while before they turn into Reddit Jr.
It's their instance, they are free to do as they wish to comply with their local regulations
But when it's a centralized social media who do what they want in there playform you guys complains about it
I personally never complained about piracy being removed from Reddit, it makes sense from a legal perspective.
The advantage of Lemmy is that all of the other instances still have that community.
Piracy subreddits still exist on Reddit. Lemmy.world admins are apparently blocking communities that even Reddit allows.
Reddit has lawyers that the Lemmy admins cannot afford.
Sounds like you're assuming there was some legal issue that triggered this community blocking? Lemmy.world admins did not receive any legal notices prior to this action, it was just their kneejerk response to a troll from another instance. You can view it yourself, browse to the post via [email protected] or see it directly https://lemmy.world/post/3175920
More like PEOPLE are acting like they're the only authority of Lemmy.
The whole point of Lemmy is that unlike Reddit, you can give middle fingers akimbo to the server and still participate.
It's not that difficult to jump ship.
"middle fingers akimbo" has been appreciated
Hexbear drove them mad.
I am starting to get frustrated with lemmy.world. The downtime and stability was one thing but now they cloudf****ed it, the stability has not significantly improved and cloud flare can now see everything we do here. Once there is account migration I plan on self hosting an instance.
It depends on what you want from migration. Lemmy-migrate can migrate your subs but not posts or comments.
I'd mind less if their own instance wasn't so broken.
Ye I think I need to start my own instance, That's the only way I can get away from bullshit like this
Quick and easy, self hosting for a while now.
https://github.com/ubergeek77/Lemmy-Easy-Deploy
thank
Nice. Thanks for this.
I've been on my own instance since I started using Lemmy a few months ago and it's amazing to just... do whatever I want.
You know, I agree that this is definitely the beauty of Lemmy's federated nature but I'm somewhat perplexed by statements like "I can do whatever I want". I mean for sure, in theory you definitely can, but were really being held back before? I just personally have never actually run up against the limits of my freedoms online and being unable to do something I want to do. I'm probably just super vanilla and boring I suppose. I guess the recent shit with Reddit is an example where I really was constricted, by virtue of no longer having the choice of mobile app to access the website through, but then, I just jumped ship to Lemmy. I can imagine I might run in to a situation where the admins of the instance I signed up to block a community I liked, but it's very rare that this is a community that I care about and when it is, there's almost always another server around I can make an account for and sign up to all the same communities as before. I guess in typing this I'm seeing that the answer is that, with your own instance you won't have to keep hopping, but I guess I just so rarely get inconvenienced by admin decisions that it's never seemed worth the trouble.
If it's not too prying, can I ask what is it you want to, and in practice really would do, that running your own instance has now allowed you? Not just theoretical but, like a real existing capability that you've gained and make use of regularly? It's appealing to me from a theoretical basis and sometimes the theory and principle alone is enough, but the effort barrier hasn't seemed worth it for the theoretical gains alone.
That "concerned internet citizen" was a 10 hour old account whose only post was complaining about piracy. It was a troll out for some good ol manipulation.
Hey, that's not true. They also had posts complaining about trans people existing and Star Trek fans being nerds. Still, it's admirable - in a way - the effect they had: I ask the lemmy.world admins for updates on fixing their technical issues, and get no reply. This guy makes one post, and they all leap into action.
Its very sus. Even if he had a legal point. It was so out of the blue AND fucked up my feed. I enjoy piracy stuff
oh well better late than never to migrate i spose
~~EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.~~
EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !
lemmy.world hasn't defedered from lemmy.dbzer0.com entirely, they've just blocked the piracy community.
Such is the beauty of lemmy
Deleted how? I can see it here while logged in (though there are only a few posts):
https://lemmy.world/c/piracy
That's not a copy of the main piracy community, that's another piracy community that's hosted on lemmy.world
The community people are talking about is [email protected], which is no longer accessible via lemmy.world
It appears [email protected] is also blocked.
Lemmy.ml as a whole got defederated I believe, which I can at least understand
Nah lemmy.ml is still federated. You can see it listed here https://lemmy.world/instances
Ah I thought somebody mentioned they got defederated. Probably my bad
hexbear (a leftist instance) was defederated recently. lemmygrad.ml is "under discussion".
lemmy.ml has too many general users thesedays imo, it would be very major to block it.
Not that one, their copy of the massive one at dbzer0