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[–] 131 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Honestly, GIMP is not a good alternative to Photoshop. I know, "it's free" is enough for many people, but it ... just isn't.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    With GIMP 3.0 it's a bit better at least, they've finally added non-destructive editing:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaq-Cm1ZkA

    Full changelog here:
    https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-3.0.html

    I'd dare say that unless you've already learnt Photoshop (and have to unlearn it) then Darktable+GIMP works fine for home photo editing.
    If you're used to Photoshop and your skills with it is what puts bread on the table... then I completely understand not switching tools.

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    My understanding is that a lot of tech debt has been removed with the release of 3.0 and I'm hopeful it will make future updates simpler and faster. :)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I want to make GIMP work for me but it’s the small things like trying to select a layer and move it with the arrow keys but the arrow keys instead are incessantly switching between layers for some reason? I find the fussiness of layer selection among other stacked layers in your canvas frustrating also.

    I wish there was a plugin that made everything work exactly like Photoshop, made all keyboard shortcuts Photoshop user friendly, added content aware fill, etc…if these issues would be fixed then I’d use it more often. (I found and tried to install PhotoGimp for my Gimp install on my Mac but alas it didn’t work…recommendations?)

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    GIMP didn't "just figure out non-destructive editing by 2025". You're talking as if it was something that the GIMP development team just decided to randomly add recently, after previously ignoring user demands.

    The foundation for that functionality (GEGL) has been in development for ages and was also used for some functionality in 2.6 for a long time. The reason why it took this long is that it's a pretty fundamental change to how the app works. Also, that meshed with other upcoming changes at the time. Also, small development team.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As somebody who has been trying to decided which of the RAW photo editors to use, I can tell you that Darktable has a steep learning curve over Lightroom. The UI is incredibly dense and the names of sliders don’t make sense unless you’re an image science expert.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'll take your word for it, I've never used Lightroom.

    Whenever I played around with Darktable it seems finding a tutorial to get the effect I wanted was just a minute of searching away, and there's a ton of beginner tutorials available too.
    https://www.darktable.org/2024/12/howto-in-5.0/

    But then I was the kid that rtfm the game manual on my way home from the store and love dense UIs as an adult. :)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Darktable is a godsend to me for converting film negatives.But I pretty much only use image conversion, RGB curve, then fidget with the exposure and RGB sliders in negadoctor a little more then I'm done. No idea how to do anything else.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Been usin DT for close to a year now. I agree the learning curve is a little steeper than light room but once you get it, everything clicks into place. I can't believe how powerful this program is and it's free. It's unbelievable

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    I imagine Gimp users revolting if it ever improves a lot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wonder if it would be feasible to create a different UI on top of the existing GIMP backend.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Look into PhotoGIMP, afaik it precisely delivers Photoshop-like symbols, maybe even layout, and shortcuts

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I thought they had stopped development? Have t checked them in a decade.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    More than a decade on that. I would say the usability is so bad that they are not on track to catch up ever unless something changes. Every year or so I download GIMP and try to use it for something basic, and I always fail and give up.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I assume you are right. So then I ask myself, for my own occasional use, would a standalone version of Photoshop from 2015 cover my needs?

    Yeah, I think it would!

    I was always a much heavier user of Lightroom than Photoshop anyway. I still need to choose between the FOSS options there.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The same with Lightroom sadly. The open source alternatives are either too buggy or have UX designed by very "opinionated" people, making them painful and frustrating to use. I currently want to get rid of Lightroom but can't.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is an alternative if you are a casual user.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    You could give Photopea a try, if you're looking for a free (as supported) alternatives, it has all core functions and a interface that looks very familiar. No installation required so you can easily test it, and use it in any browser (not sure how well it works without mouse and keyboard or low end devices though).

    If you want more than core functionality I don't think there is a (legally) free option out there.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Always with the GIMP hate. You make a better free alternative then.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This meme from the late 90s is still going? It's honestly an impressive record.

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