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"No nation is older than 250" (i.postimg.cc)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by to c/facepalm@lemmy.world
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TranscriptA threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".

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A threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".
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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean sure they've still got a royal line, but the royal family wasn't always in power. Like is it fair to say that the Tokugawa government is the same as the meiji restoration government, is the same as the modern government?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Like is it fair to say that the Tokugawa government is the same as the meiji restoration government, is the same as the modern government?

    The Edo Period alone spanned 268 years. The Heian Period nearly made it to 400.

    Even if you evaluate these as distinct, they individually outstip the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're conflicting state and nation I think. Both are also pretty loose terms. Nations didn't really exist before nationalism in the 1800s and states are just big ships of thesiii

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I was thinking more along the lines of governmental continuity, which has just as arbitrary lines. But less arbitrary in some cases like conquest or dynastic change. Like there was something that happened between Julius Caesar and Agustus. The line isn't super clear, but the Republican government and the empire definitely have some key differences even if the Senate was never really disolved.

    But I remember Louis XIV saying something like "I die, but the state remains". So I think in some proto form "the state" or something larger than just the ruler has existed on and off throughout history.

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