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That's assuming a lot. I wanted a car that was fast, electric, had easy charging, good range, and didn't cost $100,000. 5 years ago, that was a Model 3.
Didn't give a shit about Musk's lies, always knew he was full of it and was a typical scumbag CEO; I did not peg him as someone to go full on Nazi mode.
If you knew then that he was a liar, then I really don't see how you can complain about it now. You evidently knew which business you were getting into.
You can say that about literally any company that exists under capitalism.
That's an odd position to take. Fraud is okay since others commit fraud as well? Not many companies have a Wikipedia entry documenting their ongoing deception and fraud since 2017.
My position on Elon Musk and Tesla by extension is clear. If you are supportive of them, that's completely up to you.
Considering said Wikipedia entry did not exist 5 years ago, when I mentioned the prior requirements of mine that were met at the time, that wouldn't have helped me much at the time. Seems pretty convenient for current prospective buyers as of the article's publishing, 3 years ago.
Regardless, to reiterate, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but I'm sure you've never consumed a product from a company that's committed any form of fraud or other unethical act.
Having said all of this, please do not take what I'm saying here as support for Tesla, Elon, or unethical corporate practices in general. There is no way in hell I would buy a Tesla as of now, and I do indeed try to limit my consumption from companies I disagree with on moral and ethical grounds.
Call me ignorant at the time of purchase, if you want, I suppose.
I certainly have; I bought a VW four years after the TDI emissions scandal. I'm by no means immune to this.
As an aside, the fact that the Wikipedia article didn't exist doesn't mean the issues cited in it weren't already widely reported in the media. Some infamous court cases go back to 2017, including SEC fraud and union busting. False claims have been Elmo's standard operating procedure with promises such as full self driving and range first becoming broken beginning 2016, and speed of supercharging and battery swapping in 2013.
This is of course to say nothing of the outright taxpayer fraud of Hyperloop and the Boring Company, but that's a story for another day.
If you're curious, here's a nifty website that's been tracking his truthiness: https://elonmusk.today/