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Capitalism is the root of evil (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I'd say all AES states have broadly managed to achieve their goals. There have been troubles and struggles faced internally and externally, none have been dreamlike utopian wonderlands, but seemingly only non-Marxists are the ones that require that of Marxist movements.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I had to google that first. Had no idea what the sahel states had to do with socialism or communism.

    Those AES states are mostly highly corrupt though. I wouldn't refer to north Korea as a livable place, plus the leaders are bathing in money while the populace dies from hunger. In Vietnam, if you know someone in politics, you can get whatever you want. I know this (nearly) first-hand. Laos, lol. And why the hell is China on that list? They're way too deep in the capitalist game to be on that list, no? People also don't mean shit to the ones in charge. Their people are executed by the thousands every year and they like to keep minorities in concentration camps. I'm sorry, those states are failed states in my opinion.

    And as long as there is corruption, communism is not going to work. It's a nice theory, but it just takes one black sheep to fuck it up for everyone. I wish it weren't that way. It'd be nice to live in a world where people work for a purpose and everyone gets the same and no one has to suffer. Not going to happen.

    Capitalism is plain evil though, I'll give you that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    AES as in "Actually Existing Socialism." The Sahel States are a quasi-Socialist national liberatory alliance. Burkina Faso was briefly Socialist under Sankara, but that time has passed.

    The struggles faced in the DPRK are more due to sanctions and embargo than anything else, kinda like Cuba. Unlike Cuba, the US slaughtered 20% of their population and destroyed 80% of their buildings, yet they were economically ahead of South Korea until the 80s. The leadership is not "bathing in money" either.

    Vietnam is rising rapidly. It isn't a Utopia, but is dramatically improving. Same with Laos.

    The PRC is more classically Marxist than they were under the late Mao period and Gang of Four, I elaborated on that, here. Further, you're repeating state department propaganda about them, very silly.

    Further, China is democratic. It doesn't have a western liberal democracy, but it does have a comprehensive Socialist democracy. You can read this article talking about why the Chinese democratic model is in place and why the people support it, or this article on how the Chinese model of democracy works in contrast to western democracy, or this short video on how it works, or this video on how elections work, or this article on the makeup of the NPC.

    By what metrics is China not democratic? What mechanically would they have to change for you to accept the opinions of the Chinese citizenry on their own system? I recommend this introduction to SWCC, it goes in-detail about how elections and the democratic model work in China. what mechanically would China have to change in order for you to accept the system that the Chinese have implemented by and for themselves, and approve of at rates exceeding 90%?

    Please explain how "one black sheep" would ruin Socialism/Communism. Given that you clearly aren't familiar with Marxist theory nor how AES states function, this is a telltale sign that your critiques are of strawmen.

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