▲ 275 ▼ The Kids Are Leaning Right: How the Manosphere Is Shaping Voters (thewalrus.ca) submitted 1 year ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca 74 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 94 points 1 year ago (2 children) The manosphere is the symptom. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (2 children) This. I would argue housing affordability is one of the main root causes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) All of vulture capitalism is the cause. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 1 year ago Capitalism in general, from observing for 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago And liberals won't take action to slow immigration which is only a layer of the problem, but it cost them votes for sure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNjwM2a87g permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll give it a watch, thank you! I'm not saying it's not problematic and doesn't amplify the crazy, btw. It most certainly does. The sickness is not creating a society that has time, money, and skill set necessary to well... properly socialize our population, as well as innoculate them against this mess. But in a sane world, most manosphere garbage would be banned as hate speech, probably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) 100%, this video mostly goes into how fascism requires violent men to sustain it, and so violent men it will create through isolation and harmful propaganda. it's basically positive feedback loop where as fascism gains more ground, it isolates us more, making it easier to make men feel lonely and like they're failures, and that the system doesn't work, but instead of trying to make the system work by embracing a new view, they instead move from violence to hyperviolence. the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 year ago the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago I haven’t seen that one, but I love FD. Check out Sixteenth Minute of Fame, too. Jamie Loftus did a multi-part series on the Manosphere, and it’s excellent. It’s serious but still funny, rich in historical detail but still personal, and she portrays it as patriarchy vs everyone (not men vs women) without turning that into a free pass for men. You can tell she put a ton of extra care into these ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (2 children) This. I would argue housing affordability is one of the main root causes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) All of vulture capitalism is the cause. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 1 year ago Capitalism in general, from observing for 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago And liberals won't take action to slow immigration which is only a layer of the problem, but it cost them votes for sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 child) All of vulture capitalism is the cause. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 1 year ago Capitalism in general, from observing for 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 1 year ago Capitalism in general, from observing for 40 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago And liberals won't take action to slow immigration which is only a layer of the problem, but it cost them votes for sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNjwM2a87g permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll give it a watch, thank you! I'm not saying it's not problematic and doesn't amplify the crazy, btw. It most certainly does. The sickness is not creating a society that has time, money, and skill set necessary to well... properly socialize our population, as well as innoculate them against this mess. But in a sane world, most manosphere garbage would be banned as hate speech, probably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) 100%, this video mostly goes into how fascism requires violent men to sustain it, and so violent men it will create through isolation and harmful propaganda. it's basically positive feedback loop where as fascism gains more ground, it isolates us more, making it easier to make men feel lonely and like they're failures, and that the system doesn't work, but instead of trying to make the system work by embracing a new view, they instead move from violence to hyperviolence. the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 year ago the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago I haven’t seen that one, but I love FD. Check out Sixteenth Minute of Fame, too. Jamie Loftus did a multi-part series on the Manosphere, and it’s excellent. It’s serious but still funny, rich in historical detail but still personal, and she portrays it as patriarchy vs everyone (not men vs women) without turning that into a free pass for men. You can tell she put a ton of extra care into these ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll give it a watch, thank you! I'm not saying it's not problematic and doesn't amplify the crazy, btw. It most certainly does. The sickness is not creating a society that has time, money, and skill set necessary to well... properly socialize our population, as well as innoculate them against this mess. But in a sane world, most manosphere garbage would be banned as hate speech, probably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) 100%, this video mostly goes into how fascism requires violent men to sustain it, and so violent men it will create through isolation and harmful propaganda. it's basically positive feedback loop where as fascism gains more ground, it isolates us more, making it easier to make men feel lonely and like they're failures, and that the system doesn't work, but instead of trying to make the system work by embracing a new view, they instead move from violence to hyperviolence. the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 year ago the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) 100%, this video mostly goes into how fascism requires violent men to sustain it, and so violent men it will create through isolation and harmful propaganda. it's basically positive feedback loop where as fascism gains more ground, it isolates us more, making it easier to make men feel lonely and like they're failures, and that the system doesn't work, but instead of trying to make the system work by embracing a new view, they instead move from violence to hyperviolence. the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 year ago the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 year ago the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago I haven’t seen that one, but I love FD. Check out Sixteenth Minute of Fame, too. Jamie Loftus did a multi-part series on the Manosphere, and it’s excellent. It’s serious but still funny, rich in historical detail but still personal, and she portrays it as patriarchy vs everyone (not men vs women) without turning that into a free pass for men. You can tell she put a ton of extra care into these ones. permalink fedilink source parent