▲ 1415 ▼ TIL About the Smoot-Hawley Act, Which was the 20% Across the Board Tariff That Deepened the Great Depression and Resulted in the Largest Senate Seat Loss in History (en.wikipedia.org) submitted 1 year ago by realitista@lemm.ee to c/til@lemmy.world 205 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/5566633 This is an automated archive made by the Lemmit Bot. The original was posted on /r/todayilearned by /u/MechCADdie on 2025-04-04 08:19:11+00:00.
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) proven to be true? that is news to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) proven likely true means not proven true. Way to many factors. I personally thing the theory has a sorta merit but is very limited and vague (in the sense of there is no identification of where the exact sweet spot of taxation levels are). For example the punitive measures for not paying taxes at very high levels need to be very severe to curtail such behavior. So five figure owning person or mom and pop shop you give a slap on the wrist. Maybe 10% of owed added. Wealthiest individuals and companies get knocked completely out of their level so like 500% of what was owed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I would not even say it worked once in 83. Lower rates are one possible reason but like anything with the economy there are plenty of factors including cyclical changes that could explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So the cut that went into effect in '83 was passed in '81, just before a recession hit. So the US seeing an increase in revenue compared to the few years before that where unemployment was up over 8% and gdp dropping, is really more about the economy recovering than tax policy changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) proven likely true means not proven true. Way to many factors. I personally thing the theory has a sorta merit but is very limited and vague (in the sense of there is no identification of where the exact sweet spot of taxation levels are). For example the punitive measures for not paying taxes at very high levels need to be very severe to curtail such behavior. So five figure owning person or mom and pop shop you give a slap on the wrist. Maybe 10% of owed added. Wealthiest individuals and companies get knocked completely out of their level so like 500% of what was owed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I would not even say it worked once in 83. Lower rates are one possible reason but like anything with the economy there are plenty of factors including cyclical changes that could explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So the cut that went into effect in '83 was passed in '81, just before a recession hit. So the US seeing an increase in revenue compared to the few years before that where unemployment was up over 8% and gdp dropping, is really more about the economy recovering than tax policy changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) proven likely true means not proven true. Way to many factors. I personally thing the theory has a sorta merit but is very limited and vague (in the sense of there is no identification of where the exact sweet spot of taxation levels are). For example the punitive measures for not paying taxes at very high levels need to be very severe to curtail such behavior. So five figure owning person or mom and pop shop you give a slap on the wrist. Maybe 10% of owed added. Wealthiest individuals and companies get knocked completely out of their level so like 500% of what was owed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I would not even say it worked once in 83. Lower rates are one possible reason but like anything with the economy there are plenty of factors including cyclical changes that could explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I would not even say it worked once in 83. Lower rates are one possible reason but like anything with the economy there are plenty of factors including cyclical changes that could explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I would not even say it worked once in 83. Lower rates are one possible reason but like anything with the economy there are plenty of factors including cyclical changes that could explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I mean that sounds more like a tax haven situation. Honestly to stop that I think countries should require companies meet their tax rate globally where they can deduct what they pay elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) See. to me. we became the tax haven. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So the cut that went into effect in '83 was passed in '81, just before a recession hit. So the US seeing an increase in revenue compared to the few years before that where unemployment was up over 8% and gdp dropping, is really more about the economy recovering than tax policy changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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