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Trying to de-google and looking for an alternative to Gmail.

Don't mind if it's a paid service if it's robust.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Skiff or Protonmail.

Skiff gives you 10 GBs of storage and also comes with a drive and a Notion-like Pages app. They even let you add custom domain for free. The only disadvantages are the non-native Android or iOS apps that just feel off and the limits on folders and filters.

ProtonMail only gives 1GB of storage and stuff like custom domains, aliases, etc are all paid features. The Android app is decent but missing some basic features that you only notice when you actually use it (select and delete when searching for example). Definitely the most robust mail service there is though. With Proton Unlimited, you also get stuff like per-site aliases using SimpleLogin, Proton VPN, Proton Drive, Proton Calendar and Proton Pass. But if I'm being honest, only the Mail and VPN are truly complete products.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proton drive also seems pretty compete to me, now that they have a desktop app that's working really well (at least for windows, don't know about other OS's)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, it's pretty functional. Only issue I've had with it is it's pretty slow, and if you need to upload a lot of files quickly your out of luck.

My boss had me take a couple hundred pictures with my cell, and I didn't want to waste my time trying to send via sms, so I uploaded then to my drive and shared them. It took 2 hours just to upload them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

a couple hundred pictures

send via sms

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Seriously though, that's interesting. When I moved all my stuff over from Sync to Proton Drive, the upload took about as long as expected, with my uplink being used quite well, at least when larger files were being uploaded.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yah, even as long as it took, there was no way I was texting him those photos.

I don't think it was limited by connection speed. I usually get about 1mb down and half that upload, and with each photo about 2mb that should have finished in less than five minutes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No sync functionality on Android and no webdav or such, so no support for apps like FolderSync. Also, no client for Linux and macOS.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With Proton Unlimited, you also get stuff like per-site aliases using SimpleLogin, Proton VPN, Proton Drive, Proton Calendar and Proton Pass. But if I'm being honest, only the Mail and VPN are truly complete products.

SimpleLogin is fantastic with a custom domain. Game changer for signing up to websites, especially if you use Bitwarden because they integrate seamlessly. I have paid Proton so the premium version is included for free. Not sure how the free version compares.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SimpleLogin is integrated directly into Proton Pass and Proton Pass has the ability to save them as "Aliases". So that's been really neat. I've been finding myself using Proton Pass over Bitwarden lately due to how the Proton Pass app syncs the vault better on Android and how the Aliases feature works better with the in-page autofill that Proton Pass has.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've not noticed any issues with Bitwarden on Android in the last 2 years of using it - what was happening for you?

Currently BW seems like a bulletproof solution, but it's good to have options.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

BW does feel like a more bulletproof solution tbh. The Android app's autofill is what I'm bothered by.

This for example, https://community.bitwarden.com/t/add-a-button-to-refresh-vault-in-ios-password-auto-fill-view/32989/9

And also the lack of a UI-based autofill (edit: in browser) means that it's not possible to easily pick one among multiple logins for the same site.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On my Samsung there is an accessibility button at the far right of the navigation bar. You can configure this to wake up Bitwarden and make it available to autofill (long press). Once I set that up I haven't had any issues with autofill.

You can pull down in the Android app to refresh, so that solves the problem in your link.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The pull down action does not work in the "Items for" autofill menu

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Agree on Skiff. It's like the app keeps reloading like if you used an ereader to check your mail