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[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Oh brother the Grammar nerds are here, as if that really takes away from what I'm saying.

In the mid and late 90's people knew how to make videos, they didn't link a YouTube URL but did post links to where one could find a video online, and IRC has bots that did file transfers, as well as people would use public ftp's as file dumping grounds.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm starting to wonder if you even where there.

Yeah, people had home videos. But no-one was recording themselves talking to a camcorder to then digitise the video and upload it to an ftp server. That would've taken literally days.

What you might have is some beyond shitty webcam (after 94 that is, but you said late and mid 90's) and you might take an image of yourself and send that somewhere.

It's how I got my first nudes.

What it sounds like to me is that you weren't actually there but are nostalgic for the period.

Flash animations were popular, actual videos only became commonplace with YouTube, which was founded in 2005.

And even back in 2005, you couldn't stream something to watch, the connections were so shit. You might be able to download something to watch, but not stream it.

It's beyond ridiculous to say things haven't changed in 30 years. 30 years ago personal computers were a novelty, now they're a necessity.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

We had gifs. Video was rare though.

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[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My guy, wtf were you doing in the 90's on a computer? of course we didn't have streaming or just stupid useless videos that litter YouTube now, but there were video files all over the place to download and watch. For whatever reason, people were making the time and effort to digitize videos. Mpeg codecs came out in the early 90's - I specifically remember efnet irc members posting urls to mpegs of Weird Japanese vomit porn. Amiga scene was strong too, (video toaster came out in 1990...). Not really sure why you even feel the need to doubt any of this

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

My guy, wtf were you doing in the 90's on a computer?

Playing games.

there were video files all over the place to download and watch.

The amount of some 3 second quicktime clips doesn't even begin to compare with today's videos. And you're pretending like downloading videos on a 56k modem isn't complete garbage.

Sometimes it would take minutes for a regular html site to load. People were not browsing videos, lol. Maybe in 99 you'd have some sites for the people who had ADSL but a few clips here and there is barely comparable to 30,000 hours of material uploaded to YouTube every hour

Not really sure why you even feel the need to doubt any of this

Because you're pretending like an incredibly niche experience you had with a thing that doesn't even begin to compare with today is "exactly the same as it was". No it's not. Literally a majority of the world, ~5 billion have a smartphone. Instant access to HD videos, in their pocket, 247.

Back in 1995 there were about 16 million users, now it's more than 5.5billion. 23,500 websites back in June 95. Now it's more than 1.1 billion.

I'm not doubting anything. I'm calling bullshit on you pretending like there hasn't been absolutely massive global change just because you still live in the same garage and have the same keyboard and screen.

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[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's still the same bullshit - people looking at text on their terminals. Be it SMS, be it discord, etc. people looking at images, listening to music, etc. inb4 "durr durr no 4k res in 95", no shit

I really don't know what your crusade is with this topic, but I actually do have(and still use) the same computer I had in the late 90's - SGI Indigo2 Extreme I got when I bought Alias PowerAnimator. Me and you were absolutely not doing the same stuff with our systems

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's like saying cuneiform on small tablets is the same as writing after the Gutenberg press. "It's all just symbols marked on a medium."

But I think you know that there's quite a difference in being able to print books on an industrial scale and a few priests knowing how to write down taxation in cuneiform on stone tablets.

I actually do have(and still use) the same computer I had in the late 90's

My point exactly. You're saying things haven't changed because you're stuck. The world has changed in 30 years. Arguably more than in any previous set of 30 year cycles.

30 000 hours uploaded every hour. In 1995 there weren't even 30 000 websites. >5.5 billion users versus 16 million. Do you have any idea just how huge that difference is? Here's a hint, the difference is about ~5.5 billion people.

Like what's your crusade in arguing that "it's all still the same" when it's obviously completely different.

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[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

My guy, everything has changed and yet nothing has changed. You are arguing specifics while I'm arguing bigger picture. I'm not saying your wrong or I'm wrong, I just think we have a different view and measuring with a different kind of ruler, and yet I don't think we are really in disagreement, this seems to be arguing over semantics of what videos were in ~95 (very low res and shit quality fyi) and how many people had access to those shit quality videos - I'm just saying they were always there

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago*

"I'm arguing bigger picture"

No, you're specifically doing the opposite.

You're taking what you did as a novelty, niche hobby in the 90's and saying "it's just the same now"

It literally isn't. The difference in users is about 5.5 billion and constant access in your pocket.

over semantics of what videos were in ~95 (very low res and shit quality fyi)

Consumer digital video cameras didn't even exist until 1995.

I'm just saying they were always there

You arguing that the "it's the same now" is exactly the same thing as saying literature was "exactly the same" 500 years and 5000 years because they share some very base level features.

Again, the difference is users is 5.5 billion to the 90's. Wireless connections are everywhere.

Imagine how dumb it would be to argue cars are the same as when they were invented. "They still have wheels and an engine and you steer them to go about. We had the exact same thing in 1885!"