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Tech workers react to UPS drivers landing a $170,000 a year package with a mixture of anger and admiration::Some tech workers questioned whether UPS drivers deserved high pay — others jumped in to note the importance of the jobs and harsh working conditions.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"This is disappointing, how is possible that a driver makes much more than average Engineer in R&D?"

Because the engineer is being exploited and refuses to unionize.

"To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks."

Bitch, UPS workers work harder than I ever did as an electronics engineer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks."

Bitch, UPS workers work harder than I ever did as an electronics engineer.

If he wants the $170k so badly, he should go get a job as a driver then.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"To get a base salary of $170k you know you need to work hard as an Engineer, this sucks."

As someone who has worked as a UPS driver and now as a software developer, I can say that the UPS drivers definitely work harder than your average engineer.

That quote is also deftly ignoring the fact that you’re generally paid for the value you generate, not how hard to you work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Generally you're paid the least they can get away with (with some variance in what they think that is).

It generally requires a union to get paid closer to the value you generate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Fucking truth, especially for software engineers. I spent most of today debating whether to use npm or pnpm for some project that's probably just going to get mothballed anyway.

I mean I know my worth, but I definitely don't work even 1/23rd as hard as even the laziest delivery driver imaginable. Even pretending to be a delivery driver is more work than my actual job.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to think people should be forced to have at least 1 year of experience in a, so called, blue-collar job before they are allowed to have an office job.