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Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC (arstechnica.com)
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[–] 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

AMD said no due to the platform and apparently the signal integrity not being up to snuff.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    ...said no to what?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Soldered ram is more efficient because it does not require big connectors and is closer to the CPU and GPU. 3D Vcache Is the ultimate examples or this.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yes I'm aware. What's your point?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I guess I'm not sure what you want Framework to due instead. Just not launch this at all? What alternative are you advocating for?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just not launch this at all?

    ...yes? Exactly. If they can't find a way to sell something that fits their ethos then they shouldn't sell it. Seems like an obvious answer.

    Desktop PCs don't need Framework. They've always been and still are modular, repairable and upgradeable but FW managed to design the only one that isn't. It's the opposite of everything they supposedly stand for.

    They wasted resources on this instead of building other amazing hardware.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The APU/RAM is one unit, everything else is modular and repairable. They aren’t price gouging the RAM either.

    They’re one upping Apple, big PC OEMs and Chinese Mini PC makers with a more repairable, consumer friendly product. That sounds like Framework to me.

    I think you are clinging to the idea that RAM will be separate and upgradable from the CPU for a long time… Physics dictates that it will not, especially in the laptop space where wasted power is so critical. Hacks needed to even make that work now with DDR5 are kinda crazy and inefficient (just look at the voltage/speeds/timings ddr5 sodimms run at). LPCAMM is supposedly a good stopgap, but even that is having teething issues

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    The APU/RAM is one unit

    Yes that's the point.

    everything else is modular and repairable.

    That makes no sense. If any of those components fail, you might as well throw the whole thing in the garbage because that's 90% of the cost of the machine.

    They’re one upping Apple, big PC OEMs and Chinese Mini PC makers with a more repairable, consumer friendly product.

    What's about this is more repairable or consumer friendly?

    I think you are clinging to the idea that RAM will be separate and upgradable from the CPU for a long time…

    I am not "clinging" to anything. I didnt put that standard on them, that's Framework's marketing.

    I don't believe it's not possible, I just don't believe anyone cares enough to make it happen.

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