▲ 835 ▼ To be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be its ally is fatal (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago* by Grapho@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 291 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works -20 points 2 years ago (1 child) China is ready to take over as the lead capitalist empire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) China is neither Capitalist nor an Empire, so not sure what your point is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago That isn't really a point, could you explain what you meant, rather than sling pejoratives? permalink fedilink source parent [+] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (3 children) How is China not capitalist? The government keeps it's capitalist leashed, but they are the driving force are they not? I'm also not sure how you'd not see them as an empire? It's a big ole place with a lot of folk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago You pretty much said it. The CPC holds all the political power in China, they dictate how to organize society, unlike in the west where capitalists hold all the political power and thus dictate how to organize society. The only thing you could argue are the results of the CPC leadership, and these are crystal clear after you visit China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago The driving force in the PRC is the public sector. An example I like to use is the rubber ball factory vs the rubber factory, the one who controls the rubber factory has power over the rubber ball factory. In the PRC, heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely under state control, the private sector is more for smaller firms and secondary industries. As for being an Empire, Imperialism isn't judged by size, but by relations with international countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#is-china-state-capitalist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) China is neither Capitalist nor an Empire, so not sure what your point is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago That isn't really a point, could you explain what you meant, rather than sling pejoratives? permalink fedilink source parent [+] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (3 children) How is China not capitalist? The government keeps it's capitalist leashed, but they are the driving force are they not? I'm also not sure how you'd not see them as an empire? It's a big ole place with a lot of folk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago You pretty much said it. The CPC holds all the political power in China, they dictate how to organize society, unlike in the west where capitalists hold all the political power and thus dictate how to organize society. The only thing you could argue are the results of the CPC leadership, and these are crystal clear after you visit China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago The driving force in the PRC is the public sector. An example I like to use is the rubber ball factory vs the rubber factory, the one who controls the rubber factory has power over the rubber ball factory. In the PRC, heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely under state control, the private sector is more for smaller firms and secondary industries. As for being an Empire, Imperialism isn't judged by size, but by relations with international countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#is-china-state-capitalist permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago That isn't really a point, could you explain what you meant, rather than sling pejoratives? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago That isn't really a point, could you explain what you meant, rather than sling pejoratives? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (3 children) How is China not capitalist? The government keeps it's capitalist leashed, but they are the driving force are they not? I'm also not sure how you'd not see them as an empire? It's a big ole place with a lot of folk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago You pretty much said it. The CPC holds all the political power in China, they dictate how to organize society, unlike in the west where capitalists hold all the political power and thus dictate how to organize society. The only thing you could argue are the results of the CPC leadership, and these are crystal clear after you visit China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago The driving force in the PRC is the public sector. An example I like to use is the rubber ball factory vs the rubber factory, the one who controls the rubber factory has power over the rubber ball factory. In the PRC, heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely under state control, the private sector is more for smaller firms and secondary industries. As for being an Empire, Imperialism isn't judged by size, but by relations with international countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#is-china-state-capitalist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago You pretty much said it. The CPC holds all the political power in China, they dictate how to organize society, unlike in the west where capitalists hold all the political power and thus dictate how to organize society. The only thing you could argue are the results of the CPC leadership, and these are crystal clear after you visit China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago The driving force in the PRC is the public sector. An example I like to use is the rubber ball factory vs the rubber factory, the one who controls the rubber factory has power over the rubber ball factory. In the PRC, heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely under state control, the private sector is more for smaller firms and secondary industries. As for being an Empire, Imperialism isn't judged by size, but by relations with international countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#is-china-state-capitalist permalink fedilink source parent