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Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) sparked controversy with a fiery speech outside the Treasury Department, declaring, “We are at war!” and calling for the Senate to be shut down in response to Elon Musk’s access to federal payment systems.

Her remarks, applauded by some Democrats, drew backlash from Republicans, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who likened them to “a call for insurrection.”

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[–] 197 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Is it really an insurrection if you're trying to save a government from destruction by outsiders?

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago* (11 children)

    Depends on who you ask. If its someone sane then no, but if it's someone who is working with the current administration then the answer is yes.

    I am frankly terrified at this insinuation and I think we will see some serious repercussions from this, on one side or the other. This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.

    They're going to do that anyway, with or without an excuse. Trump has openly talked about it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.

    The state has done that long before Trump... The US routinely arrests the opposition voices, on thin pretenses.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    But I am talking about sitting elected officials. Something that hasn't been done in the US aside from the odd assassination. But I could 100% see them being like "well this is an insurrection and we can kill people for doing that" to every Dem or person that opposed them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Not arresting sitting elected reps is what got us here, as they believe, and we've proven, they are not bound by laws.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Bit of a difference between arresting someone for breaking the law and arresting someone for their beliefs.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    The Republicans thought the same thing, to be fair. The difference is that we can be 100% confident that they’re pumped full of the most insane propaganda and are astoundingly stupid to believe that their team isn’t the most wild, overt version of everything they claim is evil.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Obviously it is. But not all insurrections are wrong.

    Committing an insurrection because you lost an election is far less laudable than committing insurrection against an increasingly fascist dictatorship.

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