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Anon questions the KKK (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by [M] to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 25 points 2 years ago (11 children)

John Brown was a radical Christian, and he's okay in my book.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Truly an American hero.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Pretty telling that he's not mentioned in history books. I didn't learn anything about him until well into adulthood.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    It's always funny when I hear this, currently teaching ELA in Florida of all places. So, we all heard of the cuts to education, stop teaching certain bits of history (please fill me in on the correct term, I currently remember trump or Desantis' buzzwords about not teaching slaves being enslaved and them being "indentured" and "learning valuable skills!" the cunt.)

    Anyway, our current section for this lesson plan is on Harriet Tubman, underground railroad, teaching the kids how to get characterization from the text and follow context clues, stuff like that. John Brown is mentioned, and in my counties' plans is a side lesson on John Brown, what he did, which works better for me since I should be teaching history regardless. I'm telling these kids all about him, what he believes in, and how raiding that armory is what caused the federal government to come crashing down on him, all the crazy radical badass things this man did.

    Now, as I'm teaching these things, in the back of my head I'm thinking "This is surprising.... Isn't this supposed to be forbidden knowledge right know? What got cut?" Anyway, sorry for the walk of text. Slightly drunk, figured it fit here.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, I am in a VERY fucking red part of Florida. Lifted white trucks, truck nuts, punisher stickers over blue line American flags, the fuckin works. You guys should see bike week, you'd swear it was the second coming of the führer.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't know much about it but I assume it would be any texts white washing history. As an example I grew up in the south and learned about John Brown and Harriet Tubman with basically facts that can be regurgitated. Nothing diving into the day-to-day hardships and anything sounding too sympathetic.

    The rationale for the civil war was white washed to "state's rights" and specifically "slavery wasn't the major cause". For 'what" state's rights obviously due to economic ones because the north was purposely attempting to keep the south down.

    Another example was that slaves had a better life as slaves and many came back! The 'silent racism' of the North was even worse than the South's violent racism because in the South they could live (in slavery) while on the North they will be destitute and invisible.

    The point being, if it's attempting to redo that, then it is the overall message and subtext of the curriculum.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Oh I got to cover the "many came back" part too, in the form of the fugitive slave law. Thomas Sims for example, people just grabbed off the street in the north and dragged back south because the good ol' boy system of the courts got some cash from detlaring any random black dude a runaway slave was also prominently taught. Again, NOT DEFENDING MY HOME STATE. Just wondering what the hell I'm missing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    He might've been mentioned once in a class but we definitely didn't learn much of anything. Lincoln and the Emancipation Proclamation was of course covered a dozen times. Granted this was decades ago in the 90s.

    For context, I'm in the Midwest and had an 8th grade history teacher/football coach tell us black people had an extra bone in their leg and it made them good at sports. That guy (a beloved teacher) was elected to the school board about 5 years ago. They're definitely out there and they definitely have some backwards views.

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