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(Minor) Post asking for feedback on potential slowness on LW (where 36% of the Lemmy users are located) is removed from !asklemmy@lemmy.world as a "support question" (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Okay, this is definitely a minor case, but probably still worth reporting.

Modlog is here, 17 hours ago: https://lemmy.world/modlog/3106

Link to the post content reposted on !fediverse@lemmy.world: https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751

That question is useful for most of the people, as LW hosts 36% of the users base, and most of the active communities (https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active). Removing it as a support question seems questionable.

The most curious thing is that I investigated a bit, as LW still allows to show which mod performed which action (that how things worked in 0.19.3), and that removal has been performed by a mod that literally hasn't performed any action in 6 months: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=45389

Not wanting to put a tinfoil hat, but it's still curious to me that that specific mod came out from a 5-months inactivity just to remove that one post highlighting potential issues with LW.

What do you all think?

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[–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Apologies if this isn't the place for it but I feel it's relevant to the OP-

I've been messing with WG off and on for months trying to sort out why it is that L.W won't stay synced to all of our communities simultaneously. Nothing we've tried has ever worked for very long.

If L.W picks up posts from WG like it's supposed to their comments/votes/etc don't show up to WG until a day later, sometimes longer. Some of our communities update over there nearly instantly, others take awhile or have to be manually pulled over. Given that they are using an older version of Lemmy and have features in place that don't match the rest of Lemmy it's hard to know where the problem really lies. There isn't much left to try on our end.

At this point there isn't much we can do besides continuing to tune the database settings until something sticks or holding out hope that everything magically works again when L.W finally updates to a newer Lemmy build.

If others are having trouble too that seems like even more reason to continue to spread out across the fediverse instead of concentrating on a few large instances. As I've said before I don't believe this is what the owners/admins/mods of L.W want. The longer time goes on the more it seems like they are actively working to hide their problems to keep a stranglehold on users.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The longer time goes on the more it seems like they are actively working to hide their problems to keep a stranglehold on users.

    L.W admins are not profiting, they work for very little money, as i understand. They have troubles with the site and have been considering to drop it a few months ago.

    My guess is that the protocol is heavy and since they have the largest instance there are bottlenecks.
    c.c. : @lwadmin@lemmy.world

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    We had never the intention to drop the website. We do not profit at all ( only if you "profit" from online shame and harassment ). I even donate myself to the platform and ocasionally to other open source federated software.

    We all are human and arent perfect and cant track everything and all things. Lemmy devs ocasionally ignore us because "big instance bad" and the instability in their recent releases and lack of testing LW is 5 or 6 versions now back? Because we dont want to rush and if we make a wrong step with upgrading it causes a blackout on lemmy. Additionally we have some tweaks that we want to backport when we upgrade, that moderation doesnt get hurt by upgrading.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    L.W admins are not profiting, they work for very little money, as i understand.

    This is every instance admin though. They don't get a pass because they have a shitload of users. If anything the responsibility is even greater as one of the "flagship" instances. If they are unable to handle it then something needs to change.

    They have troubles with the site and have been considering to drop it a few months ago.

    I'm not really concerned with what the "official" excuses are as I find L.W staff to be untrustworthy. I haven't seen them talk about shutting L.W down but that sounds like a scare tactic to me. My personal opinion is that the fediverse doesn't need large instances in the first place though so I am obviously biased here.

    My guess is that the protocol is heavy and since they have the largest instance there are bottlenecks.

    Lemmy is a giant database that throws tantrums the more you add to it. As L.W is huge in terms of users and communities, I'm sure the demands on their hardware are very real. That doesn't change the fact that it isn't working correctly and sweeping genuine/good faith questions under the rug serves no purpose besides deception and ego protection.

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