Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.

Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.

Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.

She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.

Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.

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[–] 78 points 2 years ago (10 children)

National identity is imaginary, powerful and useful. What she's choosing to claim with hers is badass. It's brash, in-your-face, heroic. Anti-apathy. And our world needs tonnes more of it.

As an activist irl, and someone targeted daily by nazis for years, AOC has no illusions about the current state of fash in the USofA, nor the history and current state of slavery and genocide in the world. Nazis (and other misogynists) will tell you she's ignorant and deluded, but you know she's not. She's manifesting, and the irony is lovely.

If you want to live in the country she does - against all the opposition activists for the common good constantly face - claim it as she claims it. Go find your allies irl and stop letting powerful men tell you there's no point trying anything. Your enemy says you're not a real person, but a thing God put on earth for them to use or destroy.

Tough love: Hope is hard work. Apathy is an easy trap that flatters your intelligence while it kills your spirit. Trust yourself and make a choice: who is your enemy and how are you going to treat them?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I heard an interview with the sci-fi author Kim Stanley Robinson, and he said something that I love: "pessimism is almost a dereliction of duty."

    If we want the world to be a better place, we have to make it a better place.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Thank you, this comment section has some of this cynisim already. Yes she's saying very eviden things but the other side is winning precisely by creating a culture of fear and overwhelming toxicity and locking you in echo chambers that eat at you by making you think their normal is The normal. It's not lying than to project what you want into the world until enough people are in on it and pressure bad elements into hiding or into changing path.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Fuck, dude. Maybe I have become too cynical. I've become a little dejected these last few days/weeks/months, but that was actually inspiring.

    I should follow your username's advice more lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Same. The enemy literally studies how to make us give up, and these screens we're constantly touching are totally part of it.

    snip from the last good thing I read on reddit:

    The term "disinformation" undersells the problem. Because much of Russia's social media activity is not trying to spread fake news. Instead, the goal is to divide and conquer by making Western audiences depressed and extreme.

    Sometimes, through brigading and trolling. Other times, by posting hyper-negative or extremist posts or opinions about the U.S. the West over and over, until readers assume that's how most people feel. And sometimes, by using trolls to disrupt threads that advance Western unity.

    [edited for going on at length]

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah. I'm a fucking American. A real American who takes pride in national heroes like the Abraham Lincoln Brigade and many others who fought and died opposing fascism

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Also for anyone interested in very left wing very American media, there's a podcast called "Alice Isn't Dead" that's basically a radio show of a woman driving a truck looking for her missing wife, filled with musings on America and it's nature. It's by the nightvale people and it's good enough that I have less radicalized friends that enjoy it

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)
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    Are people acting like this is new? We're living in extremely precedented times. Hell even "social condervativism is on the rise while the climate changes catastrophically" describes the situation of the reign of king James the misogynistic of England and Scotland (most notable for his Bible translation, his witch burnings, and his unification of Scotland and England and colonization of the americas and acrually a lot more), at the beginning of the little ice age

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