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[+] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 172 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 303 points 2 years ago (3 children) Move to Australia. Miss. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 56 points 2 years ago We treat NZ like another state so this isn't all that far from the truth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) How did you know they were a "Miss"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because they found themselves in Australia, as opposed to New Zealand. They missed NZ by about 4k km. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) And don't call me Shirley. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) So 4 megameters? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 years ago Usually NZ has less restrictive visa requirements, and is often called “Australia’s back door” due to Au/Nz free travel agreements. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 158 points 2 years ago (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 58 points 2 years ago (2 children) No 2a, our stores are small and we don't tip. Next you'll tell me that the government expects me to take time off from work to care for my health and family. And that having a personal car is expensive and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] ladicius@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) My take: Aussies are Americans with British humour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...and really shitty Internet access. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't American Internet also known to be pretty bad already? At least in many places? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Halo@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago Wife and I looked into moving to Australia after we visited Sydney. I work in IT so not a problem for me to find a new job and my wife is in healthcare. She is a respiratory therapist which is in high demand but looks like your end of the world does nursing with a speciality in respiratory therapy. Couldn’t figure out how that would translate but damn are we ready to jump over the bigger pond. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about engineers in NZ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago* Engineer ? Believe it or not, straight to jail residency permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So residency immediately with a job offer? Woah permalink fedilink source parent [–] Otkaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Possibly stupid question but what do you mean by "we have no 2a"? Edit: 2nd amendment, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago 2nd amendment AKA bubba with a larger arsenal than an army arms room. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago Second Amendment (guns), I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago No 2nd Amendment, I.e. guns are strictly controlled and not just anyone can own one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Although you may not recieve as warm a welcome in Aus at the moment. A LOT of Australians are mad at Americans for their political culture right now. We have transphobes and bigots here too and theres a lot of Australian bigots who are feeling very bold. Also theres a feeling from the more left leaning people that if we dont have enough resources and room for people fleeing ethnic cleansing, wars and famine we dont have the room for people who didnt like how their democratic election went. Also our cost of living isnt going down either... Not saying you will get a hostile reaction, or even a negative one... just temper your expectations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) FYI there's a typo in here which had me reading it like "people-freeing ethnic cleansing", which sounds evil as hell and not at all what you meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You're right. Have always considered Australia the US and NZ Canada. Americans fit in well in Australia so long as they're friendly and check their ego at the door. Australian culture is a big moosh of many cultures but tends to cringe at American culture. You kind of have to be more about yourself rather than be all about being an American, then you will fit in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Small store, no tips, be quiet? Sounds like heaven. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) We have no 2a, our stores are small, and we don't tip. These are the only examples you can come up with as to why Americans might "never shut up" about it being "better back home?" I'm having a hard time taking that seriously. I consider those to be GOOD things. Well yeah, so would roughly 90% of all Americans. Well maybe the small stores thing from a convenience standpoint I guess? What I'm saying is I'd like you to elaborate, this can't be the whole story (signed, someone who has seriously given thought to moving to NZ). :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago Also anecdotal: I met an American in France one time. We were both travelling, so there were plenty of other things to talk about, but somehow he got onto the subject of how much he loves the 2nd amendment within 5 minutes of meeting him, max. I have no idea how he steered the convo there, it was like a magic trick. Blew my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I think you're equating Lemmy with America. You vastly overestimate how many people share that viewpoint. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (8 replies) [–] Lexam@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Step one have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wrong. You don't need money if you're attractive because someone else with money will give you theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wrong. Step 1: be attractive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Noedel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I moved to NZ with a backpack and 2000 dollars in my name. Seven years now, I have been permanent resident for a while permalink fedilink source parent [–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago Hell I'm not asking for a friend, I'm asking for myself..... seriously.... how? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 303 points 2 years ago (3 children) Move to Australia. Miss. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 56 points 2 years ago We treat NZ like another state so this isn't all that far from the truth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) How did you know they were a "Miss"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because they found themselves in Australia, as opposed to New Zealand. They missed NZ by about 4k km. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) And don't call me Shirley. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) So 4 megameters? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 years ago Usually NZ has less restrictive visa requirements, and is often called “Australia’s back door” due to Au/Nz free travel agreements. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 56 points 2 years ago We treat NZ like another state so this isn't all that far from the truth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) How did you know they were a "Miss"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because they found themselves in Australia, as opposed to New Zealand. They missed NZ by about 4k km. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) And don't call me Shirley. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) So 4 megameters? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] don@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because they found themselves in Australia, as opposed to New Zealand. They missed NZ by about 4k km. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) And don't call me Shirley. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) So 4 megameters? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) And don't call me Shirley. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Surely you can’t be serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gork@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) So 4 megameters? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Can you convert that to quectometers, please? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 years ago Usually NZ has less restrictive visa requirements, and is often called “Australia’s back door” due to Au/Nz free travel agreements. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 158 points 2 years ago (17 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 58 points 2 years ago (2 children) No 2a, our stores are small and we don't tip. Next you'll tell me that the government expects me to take time off from work to care for my health and family. And that having a personal car is expensive and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] ladicius@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) My take: Aussies are Americans with British humour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...and really shitty Internet access. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't American Internet also known to be pretty bad already? At least in many places? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Halo@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago Wife and I looked into moving to Australia after we visited Sydney. I work in IT so not a problem for me to find a new job and my wife is in healthcare. She is a respiratory therapist which is in high demand but looks like your end of the world does nursing with a speciality in respiratory therapy. Couldn’t figure out how that would translate but damn are we ready to jump over the bigger pond. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about engineers in NZ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago* Engineer ? Believe it or not, straight to jail residency permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So residency immediately with a job offer? Woah permalink fedilink source parent [–] Otkaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Possibly stupid question but what do you mean by "we have no 2a"? Edit: 2nd amendment, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago 2nd amendment AKA bubba with a larger arsenal than an army arms room. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago Second Amendment (guns), I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago No 2nd Amendment, I.e. guns are strictly controlled and not just anyone can own one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Although you may not recieve as warm a welcome in Aus at the moment. A LOT of Australians are mad at Americans for their political culture right now. We have transphobes and bigots here too and theres a lot of Australian bigots who are feeling very bold. Also theres a feeling from the more left leaning people that if we dont have enough resources and room for people fleeing ethnic cleansing, wars and famine we dont have the room for people who didnt like how their democratic election went. Also our cost of living isnt going down either... Not saying you will get a hostile reaction, or even a negative one... just temper your expectations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) FYI there's a typo in here which had me reading it like "people-freeing ethnic cleansing", which sounds evil as hell and not at all what you meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You're right. Have always considered Australia the US and NZ Canada. Americans fit in well in Australia so long as they're friendly and check their ego at the door. Australian culture is a big moosh of many cultures but tends to cringe at American culture. You kind of have to be more about yourself rather than be all about being an American, then you will fit in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Small store, no tips, be quiet? Sounds like heaven. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) We have no 2a, our stores are small, and we don't tip. These are the only examples you can come up with as to why Americans might "never shut up" about it being "better back home?" I'm having a hard time taking that seriously. I consider those to be GOOD things. Well yeah, so would roughly 90% of all Americans. Well maybe the small stores thing from a convenience standpoint I guess? What I'm saying is I'd like you to elaborate, this can't be the whole story (signed, someone who has seriously given thought to moving to NZ). :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago Also anecdotal: I met an American in France one time. We were both travelling, so there were plenty of other things to talk about, but somehow he got onto the subject of how much he loves the 2nd amendment within 5 minutes of meeting him, max. I have no idea how he steered the convo there, it was like a magic trick. Blew my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I think you're equating Lemmy with America. You vastly overestimate how many people share that viewpoint. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (8 replies)
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 58 points 2 years ago (2 children) No 2a, our stores are small and we don't tip. Next you'll tell me that the government expects me to take time off from work to care for my health and family. And that having a personal car is expensive and unnecessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) My take: Aussies are Americans with British humour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...and really shitty Internet access. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't American Internet also known to be pretty bad already? At least in many places? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 child) ...and really shitty Internet access. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't American Internet also known to be pretty bad already? At least in many places? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Isn't American Internet also known to be pretty bad already? At least in many places? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) A lot of America is empty so this highly depends on what you mean In the city the internet is great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (3 children) I grew up in the armpit of SW Oklahoma. My parents' Internet was 256 kbps in 2009. Today, they get a blazing 20 Mbps and it goes down all the time. My brother signed up for a satellite internet company that's a bit more reliable and gives him something like 50 Mbps, but iirc, his data cap is something like 250 GB and then it's overage charges. And I think he pays $120 a month for that plan. My wife and I live in the Oklahona City area and get 250 Mbps, and only because that's all we need. We were running 500 for a while, but we almost never needed that much. We have a 1 TB data cap and pay $50 a month. We're going to upgrade to fiber in the next few years. A local company is in our area and offers symmetrical 1 Gbps internet for like $80 a month. But there are upfront costs associated with getting it set up in the house that I don't want to swing yet. But I'm thinking more about it lately because I'd love to self host something like Nextcloud and get off of Google Drive. Anyway, yeah, internet in cities is mostly pretty good. Once you're out in the sticks, well, good luck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago It really depends. I know of little towns in rural Idaho that have gigabit fibre to the house simply because the local phone company submitted the request for a federal grant. The money has been there since Obama, but utils need to ask for it, and certain local populations would rather starve than take any sort of handout from the federal government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Like in the burbs of Tulsa and we get 1gig but its super expensive and I hate it. Cox is the only choice. I would love to get out of this state at least if I can't get out of the country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh my gosh, former Oklahomie for a while here! Can. Confirm. I once lived in the Northeast by Tahlequah, and the options were dial-up, satellite (with that awful data cap and terrible pings), or a couple guys running an ISP that involved pointing a receiver at a radio tower but download speeds were restricted to like 40kbps. For games I already had, SOME multiplayer was possible, and web browsing was mostly fine. Example of DL speeds though: Metro 2033 said it would take like 3 or 4 solid days so my long distance GF (now wife!) literally just sent game files to me on a USB drive through the mail. LOL Sadly they closed up shop, though. But somehow, when I lived with my grandma who lived in a place called "Hennepin", they got blessed with DSL. Made zero sense but I didn't complain! Even though I had to put a second router in bridge/repeater mode so it'd reach me at the trailer I lived in like 20 yards away from the house! (Trailer didn't even have plumbing. Winter was "fun." LOL) Absolutely wild how cut-off a lot of the country is. The big stinky desert city I'm in now has its problems, and Cox charges out the nose, but at least we get unlimited fiber out of it. Starlink might have been great for those folks if it wasn't headed by such stupid evil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Halo@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago Wife and I looked into moving to Australia after we visited Sydney. I work in IT so not a problem for me to find a new job and my wife is in healthcare. She is a respiratory therapist which is in high demand but looks like your end of the world does nursing with a speciality in respiratory therapy. Couldn’t figure out how that would translate but damn are we ready to jump over the bigger pond. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) How about engineers in NZ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago* Engineer ? Believe it or not, straight to jail residency permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So residency immediately with a job offer? Woah permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago* Engineer ? Believe it or not, straight to jail residency permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So residency immediately with a job offer? Woah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago* Engineer ? Believe it or not, straight to jail residency permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So residency immediately with a job offer? Woah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Otkaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Possibly stupid question but what do you mean by "we have no 2a"? Edit: 2nd amendment, thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago 2nd amendment AKA bubba with a larger arsenal than an army arms room. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago Second Amendment (guns), I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago No 2nd Amendment, I.e. guns are strictly controlled and not just anyone can own one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago 2nd amendment AKA bubba with a larger arsenal than an army arms room. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago Second Amendment (guns), I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago No 2nd Amendment, I.e. guns are strictly controlled and not just anyone can own one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Although you may not recieve as warm a welcome in Aus at the moment. A LOT of Australians are mad at Americans for their political culture right now. We have transphobes and bigots here too and theres a lot of Australian bigots who are feeling very bold. Also theres a feeling from the more left leaning people that if we dont have enough resources and room for people fleeing ethnic cleansing, wars and famine we dont have the room for people who didnt like how their democratic election went. Also our cost of living isnt going down either... Not saying you will get a hostile reaction, or even a negative one... just temper your expectations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) FYI there's a typo in here which had me reading it like "people-freeing ethnic cleansing", which sounds evil as hell and not at all what you meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) FYI there's a typo in here which had me reading it like "people-freeing ethnic cleansing", which sounds evil as hell and not at all what you meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago You're right. Have always considered Australia the US and NZ Canada. Americans fit in well in Australia so long as they're friendly and check their ego at the door. Australian culture is a big moosh of many cultures but tends to cringe at American culture. You kind of have to be more about yourself rather than be all about being an American, then you will fit in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Small store, no tips, be quiet? Sounds like heaven. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) We have no 2a, our stores are small, and we don't tip. These are the only examples you can come up with as to why Americans might "never shut up" about it being "better back home?" I'm having a hard time taking that seriously. I consider those to be GOOD things. Well yeah, so would roughly 90% of all Americans. Well maybe the small stores thing from a convenience standpoint I guess? What I'm saying is I'd like you to elaborate, this can't be the whole story (signed, someone who has seriously given thought to moving to NZ). :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago Also anecdotal: I met an American in France one time. We were both travelling, so there were plenty of other things to talk about, but somehow he got onto the subject of how much he loves the 2nd amendment within 5 minutes of meeting him, max. I have no idea how he steered the convo there, it was like a magic trick. Blew my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I think you're equating Lemmy with America. You vastly overestimate how many people share that viewpoint. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kraiden@kbin.earth 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago Also anecdotal: I met an American in France one time. We were both travelling, so there were plenty of other things to talk about, but somehow he got onto the subject of how much he loves the 2nd amendment within 5 minutes of meeting him, max. I have no idea how he steered the convo there, it was like a magic trick. Blew my mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago Also anecdotal: I met an American in France one time. We were both travelling, so there were plenty of other things to talk about, but somehow he got onto the subject of how much he loves the 2nd amendment within 5 minutes of meeting him, max. I have no idea how he steered the convo there, it was like a magic trick. Blew my mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I think you're equating Lemmy with America. You vastly overestimate how many people share that viewpoint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Step one have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wrong. You don't need money if you're attractive because someone else with money will give you theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wrong. Step 1: be attractive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Noedel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I moved to NZ with a backpack and 2000 dollars in my name. Seven years now, I have been permanent resident for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Wrong. You don't need money if you're attractive because someone else with money will give you theirs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wrong. Step 1: be attractive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wrong. Step 1: be attractive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wrong. Step 1: be attractive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) so ... Step one: Have money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) I wonder how long it’s gonna take ‘em… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I moved to NZ with a backpack and 2000 dollars in my name. Seven years now, I have been permanent resident for a while permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago Hell I'm not asking for a friend, I'm asking for myself..... seriously.... how? permalink fedilink source parent