▲ 2424 ▼ Since we're railing on corporate America... (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by Shard@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago (15 children) Is your company the exception or the rule? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago (4 children) Not OP, but probably yes. Unlimited PTO is not uncommon in tech. Of course if you try to do some shenanigans like taking two months off they will simply fire you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I understood from my American colleagues, unlimited PTO is mainly a way for companies to stop employees from accumulating it and getting it paid out. So now not only can you not really take more vacations than before, but you also miss out on getting them paid out instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago Yep, that's pretty much it. Unlimited PTO is only good if you've proved yourself indispensable to the company, and can leverage that. Of course if you're indispensable then it's hard to take a lot of vacation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was talking about the rest of the population. Not just the tech sector. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 point 3 years ago I replied to the wrong comment, sorry, I was replying to the person asked if the 3 weeks were paid. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -26 points 3 years ago (9 children) Doesn't matter when generalizing. Many high tech/start ups operate in this manner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (6 children) Of course it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -25 points 3 years ago* (5 children) Echo chambers dont like the truth. They like their meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's not an echo chamber. In a lot of Europe holiday time is protected by law. This is not the case in the US. Just because a few people like you get paid time off beyond what the law dictates doesn't suddenly make everything even. You got yours, which is great, but what about the millions of others who don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago There's definitely some startups and tech jobs in the US that operate on a more relaxed basis, but most startups in general fail and only exist because of the low interest rates VC firms can fund them with. A lot of the large tech companies are happy to outsource where it's possible from a business perspective, to companies in places that allow for cheaper and more exploitable labor. Countless encounters with that in my career, this past week a Tableau support ticket that was first assessed by a woman working from home late at night in Bangalore with her kids crying in the background, and they didn't even give her a proper headset. Whenever you get a support tech from a US tech company in another country ask about their work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago not as many as Walmarts that don't permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago (4 children) Not OP, but probably yes. Unlimited PTO is not uncommon in tech. Of course if you try to do some shenanigans like taking two months off they will simply fire you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I understood from my American colleagues, unlimited PTO is mainly a way for companies to stop employees from accumulating it and getting it paid out. So now not only can you not really take more vacations than before, but you also miss out on getting them paid out instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago Yep, that's pretty much it. Unlimited PTO is only good if you've proved yourself indispensable to the company, and can leverage that. Of course if you're indispensable then it's hard to take a lot of vacation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was talking about the rest of the population. Not just the tech sector. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 point 3 years ago I replied to the wrong comment, sorry, I was replying to the person asked if the 3 weeks were paid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I understood from my American colleagues, unlimited PTO is mainly a way for companies to stop employees from accumulating it and getting it paid out. So now not only can you not really take more vacations than before, but you also miss out on getting them paid out instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago Yep, that's pretty much it. Unlimited PTO is only good if you've proved yourself indispensable to the company, and can leverage that. Of course if you're indispensable then it's hard to take a lot of vacation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beto@lemmy.studio 6 points 3 years ago Yep, that's pretty much it. Unlimited PTO is only good if you've proved yourself indispensable to the company, and can leverage that. Of course if you're indispensable then it's hard to take a lot of vacation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was talking about the rest of the population. Not just the tech sector. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 point 3 years ago I replied to the wrong comment, sorry, I was replying to the person asked if the 3 weeks were paid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 point 3 years ago I replied to the wrong comment, sorry, I was replying to the person asked if the 3 weeks were paid. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -26 points 3 years ago (9 children) Doesn't matter when generalizing. Many high tech/start ups operate in this manner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (6 children) Of course it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -25 points 3 years ago* (5 children) Echo chambers dont like the truth. They like their meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's not an echo chamber. In a lot of Europe holiday time is protected by law. This is not the case in the US. Just because a few people like you get paid time off beyond what the law dictates doesn't suddenly make everything even. You got yours, which is great, but what about the millions of others who don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago There's definitely some startups and tech jobs in the US that operate on a more relaxed basis, but most startups in general fail and only exist because of the low interest rates VC firms can fund them with. A lot of the large tech companies are happy to outsource where it's possible from a business perspective, to companies in places that allow for cheaper and more exploitable labor. Countless encounters with that in my career, this past week a Tableau support ticket that was first assessed by a woman working from home late at night in Bangalore with her kids crying in the background, and they didn't even give her a proper headset. Whenever you get a support tech from a US tech company in another country ask about their work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago not as many as Walmarts that don't permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (6 children) Of course it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -25 points 3 years ago* (5 children) Echo chambers dont like the truth. They like their meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's not an echo chamber. In a lot of Europe holiday time is protected by law. This is not the case in the US. Just because a few people like you get paid time off beyond what the law dictates doesn't suddenly make everything even. You got yours, which is great, but what about the millions of others who don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -25 points 3 years ago* (5 children) Echo chambers dont like the truth. They like their meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's not an echo chamber. In a lot of Europe holiday time is protected by law. This is not the case in the US. Just because a few people like you get paid time off beyond what the law dictates doesn't suddenly make everything even. You got yours, which is great, but what about the millions of others who don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's not an echo chamber. In a lot of Europe holiday time is protected by law. This is not the case in the US. Just because a few people like you get paid time off beyond what the law dictates doesn't suddenly make everything even. You got yours, which is great, but what about the millions of others who don't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago One of my current projects, the PM for the US company went off for maternity leave, and I was surprised she was back like a few weeks later. It's basically a year standard here, and 18 months isn't completely unusual depending on employer benefits for top-up on your salary. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JohnnyDanger@lemmy.world -8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I'm happy you got yours permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago With that business cell, I’m assuming you are answering calls on your time off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago There's definitely some startups and tech jobs in the US that operate on a more relaxed basis, but most startups in general fail and only exist because of the low interest rates VC firms can fund them with. A lot of the large tech companies are happy to outsource where it's possible from a business perspective, to companies in places that allow for cheaper and more exploitable labor. Countless encounters with that in my career, this past week a Tableau support ticket that was first assessed by a woman working from home late at night in Bangalore with her kids crying in the background, and they didn't even give her a proper headset. Whenever you get a support tech from a US tech company in another country ask about their work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 7 points 3 years ago not as many as Walmarts that don't permalink fedilink source parent